Shabnam Dhillon, wife of RSSB guru, has died

Babaji please have her soul Rest In Peace. We love you Babaji. We know the feeling.

RIP….

Poor man. 🙏🌼It must be so heart beaking for him. Time to lay off him I would say. I am of the belief that you can only really know and understand a culture when you are actually truly ingrained within it. Born in it in fact.
Sant Mat is an Indian philosophy and everything that is going on in India at present with the Singh brothers and Gurinder is their culture. We are actually just observers, within from without.
Let the man be for goodness sake. Those who are truly affected financially by that which has or has not occurred, are the only ones in the know surely.
Those who are not, then none of our business!
For anyone who is not in control of themselves, their own MASTER, then after all of this “Singh” trouble, they most surely will be!
And that, is ,in my opinion, how the “straight shooter” Gurinder Singh Dhillon told it from the outset!
We are all our own Radha Soami!
🙏🧚🌞😎

Miss you MAA

I am so sorry ….we love you 😢

Even if he were GIHF, the pain would have to be immense. R.I.P to her. Condolences to the whole family.

Very sad to hear news of mata Shabnam hi baba hi look after her soul love u baba ji

May she rest in peace and make the family strong to go thru the moments of sadness.

We know the feeling.
Posted by: Prakash hundalani | November 26, 2019 at 09:33 PM
Prakash,
Parent of Sherena?

May her soul Rest In Peace . 🙏🙏
Our prayers and love 💕 for the Dillon family.

Wishing soo much strength to Babaji and all who loved her..
Follow Love…always…
<3
s*

Sorry Bji
RS

May her soul rest in peace

That’s very sad news. Om Shanti.

She was mother of all
rip

Baba Ji, who protects us all, we are with you in this hour of grief, we are very sad to lose our mother, you have to take care of your company, Radha Swami

Very sad news.
Condolences to all the family

My heart bursts for guruji. so shocking. despite being a critic and sceptic am sure most of us here still feel love in our hearts for our fellow beings. No more words

That’s very sad news. i am very sorry.

So sad hard to believe she’s gone will be missing greatly
Sneh Dev

Let peace be on her, om shanti…dear babji, we have no words to console you

Guru Maa we will miss U. You are already in the Masters lap. He will take due care as he looks after all his men. Radha soami ji at all.

Very very sad news. May God grant peace to the departed soul and courage to the family to bear this unbearable loss. OM SHANTI.

Make your soul Rest In Peace in sach khans bibiji! Babaji aap ko lots of strength and love. Heart felt condolences.🙏🏻

Radha Soami Baba Ji and Everyone. Baba ji please make her soul R.I.P
Dostoh please please let’s leave Babaji Alone now regarding debate etc., We All have karma and let’s leave it at that Please. Unconditional love for my SatGuru 🙏🏼Radha Soami🙏🏼
PS:
I never ever participate in these debates, but felt it necessary to comment today. Full of heavy heart for Baba Ji and the whole family and Sant Mat Pariwar…🙏🏼Radha Soami🙏🏼❤️🌹

May her soul rest in peace
Babaji Take care of the noble soul

May her soul rest in peace

That’s very sad news.Mayher soul rest in peace. luv u baba g

😢RIP😢

So sad

Very sad

LETS PRAY FOR HER SOUL

Miss u mata ji 😢😢

RIP 🙏🌹🙏

“Precious in the sight of The Lord is the death of his Saints.” Psalms 116:15
“The Righteous perish, and no man taketh it to heart; and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.” Isaiah 57:1
“The day of death, is better than the day of one’s birth.” Eccl. 7:1
“ All Souls are Mine.” Exchange. 18:4
CONDOLENCES to the Dhillon family.

So sad

Miss you MAA 🙏😢

Deepest condolences to the Dhillon family on this deep loss. May Hazur give them strength. Radha Soami . Cornelia

Babaji we are sorry to hear our beloved mother has left for spiritual journey we are sad A great personal loss we all love you babaji take care of beloved soul

GSD is not cancelling his upcoming satsang on the weekend in Delhi and going to Dubai afterwards for another scheduled satsang.
https://m.hindustantimes.com/cities/radha-soami-satsang-beas-chief-s-wife-shabnam-dhillon-passes-away-in-england/story-4bKlK8EHHGbPvj6yNdDbzK_amp.html

Radhasoami ji🙏

May her soul rest in peace and babaji vl take care….

Radha Soami gi Baba gi.pls help her soul.really very sad news.May Baba gi help the satsangi family to bear this separation.

Heartfelt condolences to all the agreived family and satsangis. May BABA JI bless the departed soul with eternal peace in sachkhand and enough courage to all of us to face this irreplaceable loss.

Your bad luck for that you are not longer of rssb you are not devotees in fact
At the last time of you , you would be realise that rssb guru and isa masih , both are one

May her Soul rest in Peace !

So sad.

We know the feeling of mother. Radha Soami Jee

We are So Sorry Babaji..Always Love you.
Radha Swami..

May her soul Rest In Peace !! Radha Swami.

May God give her soul rest of piece. Radha Soami.

My thoughts are with you baba ji May god give peace and your wife rest in peace may god bless you all and give you strength at this hour of need rs ji your humble servant Tejpal singh

So sad radha Swami ji 🙏

God Bless you Babaji,

Sorry to hear death of Mataji
Pray to Almighty to give peace to Departed soul and strength to Babaji and his family
Radha soamy
lalita kharabanda

Rest in peace to her soul baba g

Deep condolences
Sad day for Babaji and RSSB

Sad but real departure of a soul who was privileged to be life partner of a Saint- my Master. I bow in reverence.
He must have taken care of her as He takes care of us all now and ever after.
.
I always feel His embrace as Mata jee must have had felt all along during her sojourn here.
Yet death is a cruel joke which each has to bear with of their beloved or self.

So sad news . May God give her soul rest In Peace.

“Before Abraham , . . . She IS”
Be Happy
777

May the drop merge blissfully in the Ocean!

Life is precious.
And that loss irreplaceable.
But in the midst of grief is memory.
The tears attest to the value of that soul, and every soul.
May this passing be a source of recall, and a strengthening of the ties within the family arround the things of true value, the love shared, and happiness shared.
My heart goes out to you, Baba Ji, and all the personal and sangat family who knew and loved Shabnam.

Life and death are part of life… everything is false only Death is truth
We shouldn’t be too happy or too sad when someone arrives or leaves this world
Human emotions give us these feelings and every human should lift him/herself up from these emotions
Real Santmat shown by Sri Guru Granth Sahib tells us that its all our Karmas which determine the no of breaths we take in this world
Also after us our loved one suffers due to their own Karmas
Everything happens because of Karmas whether they are good or bad
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Says
The body is the field of karma in this age; whatever you plant, you shall harvest. (SGGS p78) and By the karma of past actions, the robe of this physical body is obtained. By His(God) Grace, the Gate of Liberation is found. (SGGS p2)
RIP…

Once true master initiated he comes at the time of death.
As per my knowledge you are initiated. So you will be forgiven
And master will take care of you when your time comes

As an X Preacher, I could , ( should ) preach, but in this case, looking back, some times it seemed almost impossible to believe a Bible Verse that says” Every thing works together for the best, to those who love God, and are called according to His purpose. “ but, some how, some way, life continues, for the surviving living. It is never easy to act like nothing happened, when people die, and the world seems to be falling apart, as it is for RSSB and Gurinder right now, but if God is overseeing every thing, than, the Phoenix will arise from the ashes, as RSSB might also. Here is a Link to a tragic event that happened to the Stars of a Football Team years ago, near where I live. I toured that School a few years ago, and the dead Stars are still Heros displaced in the Gallery.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/plane-crash-devastates-marshall-university

Maharaji took her homeward
Enough of bearing grief and grievances in this vale of tears and delusion
She bore brunt of the heavy burden
Brave those who muster strength enough to cheat death of its sting.

Miss u maa realy. May God give her soul rest in peace. So sad day for baba ji n RSSB.

I love my baba ji but we lost our mother

So sad may her soul rest in peace.

🙏Radha soami baba ji . I am so sorry baba ji.
Very sad. We love you . I miss you always baba ji .

“Goodbyes are only for those who love with their eyes. Because for those who love with heart and soul there is no such thing as separation.”
~ Rumi
Of LOVE and LIFE …. https://youtu.be/3T3AIdsYFF0

Aweful I am at the expanse a death provides!
Provided our life has been sane and all-loving- full of empathy.
Abdul Kalam and Mother Teresa were such holy beings that I may recall in recent times apart from perfect Saints.
It lets us merge back in Him to become all-present He.
I wish Mata jee to have become ”He” finally leaving a temporary duality in this life she has been subjected to as also got released of the huge burden of a bitter saga of mega-monies she carried on her neck , as alleged as a prime member from His family.
He cleared her release. Now May He close this chapter of life and death. Its distasteful.
As well May He put His family and extended family at ease for He can! ( out of this huge 25000 volts circuit shocking them all. every moment).

Our dearest mata ji has gone apne dham
May her soul rest in peace.
We love you very much Baba ji
Chaman singh

This is without a doubt the most emotionally anemic death memo I’ve ever read. Describing a man’s wife as not his dear companion, not the love of his life, but his “friend”? And it concludes with an admonishment that everyone stop slacking off, and be better satsangis. Really, I’ve never seen the like.

ah, a friend is a very rare thing indeed in this world. Depends on how you view it.
I suspect you are not married. Because anyone who is married would be pleased that their
wife or husband was indeed a friend.
Also, life is fragile and nice to be reminded to wake up to its uncertainty.

We love you baba jee
Today we missed our matajee 😭😭
RADHA SOAMI JEE💐💐

This is without a doubt the most emotionally anemic death memo I’ve ever read. Describing a man’s wife as not his dear companion, not the love of his life, but his “friend”? And it concludes with an admonishment that everyone stop slacking off, and be better satsangis. Really, I’ve never seen the like.
Posted by: j | November 27, 2019 at 06:55 PM
A memo, I am aware, personally ok’ed by GSD.
Apart from this your post doesn’t merit any reaction!

Radhasoami ji Babaji .. !! We all have to stay in the will of the supreme Lord and Power ..But here she is eternally with You , Forever !!.(away from the miseries of this world . ) Take care of your ownself ,dearest Babaji !!
Radha Soami ji !!

Mother Teresa was a bitch and Abdul Kalam was a manipulator. They were made saints by the paid media just because they were Muslims and Christians. I request the meditator to increasew his meditation rather then relying on paid media propaganda.

“And it concludes with an admonishment that everyone stop slacking off, and be better satsangis. Really, I’ve never seen the like. ”
Yeah, J. Cults are super weird.
The fact that this guy is just plowing through with the “satsangs” after her death is pretty bizarre as well. Even if he is just above it all and super spiritual (which i doubt), there’s an amount of social responsibility to your family that comes before talking to massive crowds coming to see a rock star guru.

“He cleared her release. Now May He close this chapter of life and death. Its distasteful. ”
Your ridiculous comment is pretty distasteful as well, but I’m not really in a position to criticize you for that.

Death is certain for all. Do not rejoice on others’ death because it is coming and reaching to each and every one of us. Remember our own death. Humans with human actions and mind suffer more when death reaches to them and their loved ones. Babaji loves you so much and my soul wants to be with you always.

Shows how a negative brain will see negativity in everything
Shows how some can’t make the connection between life and death with any positive correlation.
Also is more than likely unmarried otherwise such relationship ideal is totally influenced by unrealistic expectation.
Obviously can’t fathom how any 2 people can be recognized as true friends where true friends outweigh waring spouses in each and every case.
Actually its a pretty petty reaction, par for the course coming out of western world thinking in negative assumptions.
Also totally misunderstood reasoning about how life and death happens, or without any kind of meaningful recognition to how or why the karmic principle actually works or functions.

We miss our maa babaji🙏

Whilst this is obviously a devastating loss for the family, it is disappointing for the public/neutral to not have the opportunity to see justice served against one of the key players in the Fortis/Religare financial scandal
The Indian authorities really need to get on with it and solve this sordid puzzle, clearing or convicting the other key players

There is a reason why GSD took him to U.K for treatment. Imagine, if same happened in some hospital in india.

little correction in above post of mine.
him=Her

Jesse,
Yes, it must be distasteful for you as the cracks and fissures in the RSSB belief system to salvation and Almighty seem real for some.
Agree with you and others who measure the spirits and spirituality with different yardsticks then by RSSB satsangis.
Deepak.
I have known them from others and media – their stories etc and hence I remarked.

I am so sorry for the loss. That’s the biggest loss one can bear. Strength and love to the family.
Radhasoami ji

I am sorry to know that wife of BABAJi passed away in London hospital. It was not expected that she will die soon , she was 57 year old and it was not serious problem. But everything done by God will,we have to accept with wholeheartedly. MAY HER SOUL REST IN PEACE. ON DEATH WE REALISE THAT ONLY GOD IS TRUTH.NAME OF RAM IS TRUTH. RAM NAAM HI SATYA HAI. NANAK SAHIB SAYS IN HIS MORNING PRAYER JAPJI SAHIB, (AADI SACH, JUGADI SACH, HAI BHI SACH, NANAK HOSI BHI SACH.) GOD WAS EVERYTHING WHEN HE WAS ALONE ,GOD IS ONLY TRUTH WHEN MADE THIS UNIVERSE ,EVEN TODAY IT IS ONLY TRUTH , IS GOD. TOMORROW IS THE SAME. HATS OFF NANAK SAHIB AND KABEER SAHIB. LOVELY UNIVERSALMASSAGE FOR EVERYONE. NOTHING WILL GO BEYOND THIS WORLD , NO BODY HAS TAKEN ANYTHING FROM THIS WORLD. KABEER SAYS. I HAVEN’T SEEN GOING To HEAVEN KEEPING BAG ON HIS HEAD. IT IS ALL ILLUSION. SO BRO. LIVE ON DAY TO DAY BASIS OR IN PRESENT. AGAIN I AM VERY SORRY TO KNOW SUDDEN DEMISE OF MATAJI.

I can actually see some people not feeling remotely any remorse for death. In lieu, they are in dismay, for they feel that Shrimati Shabnam Dhillon Ji was a convict and now can’t be behind bars. I can understand your plight and those of the conspirers. But you forgot one thing, wheather this mishappening occured or not, she would always remain unstained. And for our Babaji, let yourself try hardest to accuse him of hundred things. But you can’t ever prove it. Because of his innocuousness, and highest levels of spirituality, you despicable ones, won’t have a hand. Let’s see my points being proved apposite, coming days!

Love you maa always…..

@JS
Even after death, you still seek justice?
At least let a person rest in peace once they are dead!
@Gurjot
Not sure what your reasoning is.
What was the issue if the treatment was in India? And if she had complications and passed away. Why would it be an issue in India?
Don’t get the point you are making.

“A memo, I am aware, personally ok’ed by GSD. Apart from this your post doesn’t merit any reaction!”
There’s more emotion in your post than in the Rep’s entire memo.
What a strange, dry, humorless and soulless religion RSSB has become. Everything about it is bleak, robotic and antiseptic. The Satsang centers decor (if such a naughty word dare be used in front of satsangis) is a room of nothing but plain white walls and plastic chairs devoid of any shred of personality.
Even the RSSB book covers have been aesthetically neutered from their former charm to purposefully ugly dusk jackets. The tone of all communications from the guru’s talks to local satsangs is a professionally delivered detached somber scolding, even when someone’s wife dies. Beauty and emotion and love and all things human are sins in this religion.

I’m curious if the winter Dera session will happen this year.Probably disappoint a lot of foreign RSSBers if that happens.

May her soul rest in peace radha swami ji

I’m curious if the winter Dera session will happen this year.Probably disappoint a lot of foreign RSSBers if that happens.
Posted by: Dogribb | November 28, 2019 at 08:15 AM
Why do you think the winter session won’t happen??
If the GREATEST GSD can go ahead with the Delhi and Dubai programmes leaving the mortal remains of his ‘FRIEND’ and wife in UK, all for the sake of HIS SANGAT, unlikely that the Beas programs will be cancelled.
Hats off to you GSD!!!! Unmatched dedication. Even the Nanaks, Kabirs, Jesus, etc that you are often compared to by the exer’s here BOW to you!!!!!

“A memo, I am aware, personally ok’ed by GSD. Apart from this your post doesn’t merit any reaction!”
There’s more emotion in your post than in the Rep’s entire memo.
What a strange, dry, humorless and soulless religion RSSB has become. Everything about it is bleak, robotic and antiseptic. The Satsang centers decor (if such a naughty word dare be used in front of satsangis) is a room of nothing but plain white walls and plastic chairs devoid of any shred of personality.
Even the RSSB book covers have been aesthetically neutered from their former charm to purposefully ugly dusk jackets. The tone of all communications from the guru’s talks to local satsangs is a professionally delivered detached somber scolding, even when someone’s wife dies. Beauty and emotion and love and all things human are sins in this religion.
Posted by: j | November 28, 2019 at 07:21 AM
J,
You don’t belong there. It’s the neon lit topless girl bars for you.
Beauty, emotion and love and all things human all in abundance here.

GSD_THE_GREATEDT, what on Earth are you talking about?
Christ was crucified…you think of GSD was nailed to a cross he’d maintain his fake baba position?
Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji had his four beloved sons butchered by rabid Muslims…What’s GSD ever sacrificed?
Through crookedness, his sons have become multi-multi millionaires
Please, let’s maintain perspective and keep a lid on the intoxication of religion
ps With regards to the deceased, it’s a shame she wasn’t afforded the opportunity to clear her name although the Dhillon family hardly appear to be meeting the accusations head on…

J,
If RS is so sterile, why do you even persist in going or even worrying about the group and its various trials and tribulations?
Here is a secret: move on.
Find something worthy of your insights.

Hi JS
It is quite sad that she died under suspicion of criminal fraud, in the middle of one of the largest corporate scandals in India ‘s history. Let’s hope her name, perhaps misused through the forgery and fraud of others, will be cleared to all reasonable degrees. So that history will, at some point, record for all time her innocence, and not to leave her record for the decades to come simply as a suspect in a crime.
What is unfortunate is that she will never have a chance to publicly speak out directly to her accusors, and hold them accountable visibly in a court of law, to clear her name.
But now that burden is left to Gurinder and the family.

@GSD_THE_GREATEDT
‘Hats off to you GSD!!!! Unmatched dedication. Even the Nanaks, Kabirs, Jesus, etc that you are often compared to by the exer’s here BOW to you!!!!!”
What are you talking about ..read the Jesus and Nanak’s life..Christ .gave his life..Nanak gave his last penny to needy people..not like GSD gathered millions in his life
And Kabir said’ ‘Sai Itna Dijeye Janke Kutumb samai, Main bhi bukha na rahu, sadhu bhi bukha na jai’
Means God please give me only that much so l can run my house..l don’t have to stay hungry and able to feed my guest….Kabir didn’t want millions…
So these saints are too high from GSD
Death is always a hard truth for all family members….we should let her go whether she was involved in this fraud or just framed by her Husband and sons
She has met with God or gone to other life as per her Karmas
We all should leave this to God and show human sympathy with the family

GSD the greatest
Babaji has showed us so much…cancer financial crisis… relatives turning against you… and now death of the closest loved one. And in all of this I watch how he only practices what he teaches. He has always referred to himself as a “sevadar” a sevadar or his guru, Hazur maharaji and I without a shadow of a doubt believe that he truly is one. I salute you Babaji.

I have found the responses to Shabdnam’s death ……well, very weird. If you believe Gurinder Singh is spiritually enlightened, understands the ins and outs of the universe, knew how and when she would die years ago, has the spiritual power to guarantee her spiritual liberation,and that “a satsangi should look upon his death as if it were his wedding day”, if we believe that why would we feel sorry for him?
“One who grieves not in misery and delights not in pleasure, who is free from fear and attachment, and for whom gold and dust are the same, and who has renounced praising and blaming and is immune from greed, worldly attachment and pride… only then does the disciple attain the blessed spiritual state and merge with the Lord as water with water” – Guru Tegh Bahadur
If you decide he is just a man just like everyone else well, then what does it matter if his wife died? Has anyone on this blog ever talked to her or would know who she was if they met her at a Walmart? How is she all of a sudden so special? Haven’t many thousands of husbands and wives died in the time it took me write this post? If we think he is like everyone else an honest obituary would read “Rich Indian elite, who is being investigated for embezzlement along with her entire family, and enjoys the company of movie stars, government officials, and alligator skin handbags, died today.” Why is that so newsworthy?
If we are going to feel bad about anyone’s death, how about the 270 Palestinians this past year and a half shot dead trying to break free from the Gaza open prison in the Great March of Return, or maybe have some sympathy for the 29,000 permanently maimed by snipers and have no health care at all.
If we are going to feel and express sympathy for someone can’t we do a little better than this rich Indian elite who may very well be a crook?

Perhaps all of GSD fanboys on here should get together and set up a crowd funding page in order to raise the money to pay Daichi back?

Perhaps all of GSD fanboys on here should get together and set up a crowd funding page in order to raise the money to pay Daichi back?
Posted by: JS | November 28, 2019 at 04:06 PM
We just need a dime. Can we set your ‘reserve price’ at that or that’s too high?

GSD the greatest
Babaji has showed us so much…cancer financial crisis… relatives turning against you… and now death of the closest loved one. And in all of this I watch how he only practices what he teaches. He has always referred to himself as a “sevadar” a sevadar or his guru, Hazur maharaji and I without a shadow of a doubt believe that he truly is one. I salute you Babaji.
Posted by: Anon | November 28, 2019 at 12:56 PM
In this moment of grief, individuals popping around like popcorn by GSD’s show of dedication is a good source of entertainment.
The below is what i received yesterday 28th November IST. So what’s described there in must have been the day his FRIEND and wife passed away.
Message received-
Babaji came today to give darshan in Haynes Park, Stayed about 40 minutes. Looked very sad but after every shabad smiled a little. But all the sangat was in tears.
He said thank you all for your support and left.
Was as if you lost your own.
🙏🙏

GSD_THE_GREATEDT, what on Earth are you talking about?
Posted by: JS | November 28, 2019 at 12:09 PM
What i am talking about is beyond your PSB. So do even attempt to comprehend.
The Nanak’s, Kabir’s, Jesus all stand in respect while showering their grace on GSD.

GSD_THE_GREATEDT, first of all, use a spellcheck
Secondly, I may be wrong but I don’t think Nanak or Jesus were investigated for being involved in billion $ frauds?
I pray for the safety of Malvinder Singh

As per master sayings the one who came has to go , one day every one has to face this
may her soul rest in peace

GSD_THE_GREATEDT, first of all, use a spellcheck
Secondly, I may be wrong but I don’t think Nanak or Jesus were investigated for being involved in billion $ frauds?
I pray for the safety of Malvinder Singh
Posted by: JS | November 28, 2019 at 11:23 PM
Time to visit a Optometrist looks like.
Nanak and Jesus were investigated and Jesus even persecuted for acts considered far inappropriate in their times
Malv life in danger is it? The best place for him then is the Tihar Jail.

1)Has anyone on this blog ever talked to her or would know who she was if they met her at a Walmart?
2)How is she all of a sudden so special?
3) why newsworthy?
4) If we are going to feel bad about anyone’s death, how about the 270 Palestinians this past year and a half shot dead trying to break free from the Gaza open prison in the Great March of Return, or maybe have some sympathy for the 29,000 permanently maimed by snipers and have no health care at all. If we are going to feel and express sympathy for someone can’t we do a little better than this rich Indian elite who may very well be a crook?
Posted by: No Name | November 28, 2019 at 03:56 PM
Hi No Name
1) Oh yes I would know her even if i met her at a fashion show.
2) if you mean to the million of followers – understanding this is beyond your PSB.
3) it’s newsworthy because it’s media thinks it’s worthy to be reported. And worthy enough to report and in the manner they have, despite what you’d wish the headline ought to have been.
4) Maybe Brian Hines should have an obituary section for the benefit of people like yourself.
But I have a question for you though – how come you not questioning the obnoxious attention that’s accorded to GSD in here? A dedicated thread on his FRIEND and wife’s demise. Speaking about India the jails are overcrowded by millions of alleged and/or convicts. A larger number are probably out on bail. Why not write about them too. FYI Godman accused of rape and now child abuse has supposedly fled India. Not a word on it in here Huge financial crimes popping up regularly. News is only about rapes, revenge crimes, robbery, corruption, exploitation etc etc.But only RSSB and GSD covered in here. Funny na.

“J, You don’t belong there. It’s the neon lit topless girl bars for you. Beauty, emotion and love and all things human all in abundance here.”
Also satsangis with hurt feelings. As is usual with cult members, their first reaction to reading something they don’t like is to insult the critic and demand that he be silenced.
But I have no problem with what I wrote, as I think it’s an accurate assessment of the character of this religion. In a word, “dry.” I’ve read all the RSSB books, been to many satsangs. One thing is consistent: a dearth of human emotion.
Think carefully. Who can say they heard Charan speak of love? The master is supposed to have an abundance of godly love for his initiates. Yet there the guru sits like an impassive stone idol, quite deaf to the entreaties of his followers, and utterly unwilling to ever say he personally cares about anyone.
That kind of inhumane detachment clearly had rubbed off his the guru’s representatives, like “Wayne” who describes Gurinder’s wife as his “friend” in prose so cold. I can almost picture Wayne sweating about how to write his memo so that it’s absent of human feeling and includes a scolding admonition to, as his guru said was the answer to all problems “do your meditation.” .

Mr Brian rightly shared this news with rest on this forum as a mark of respect to departed soul who was also wife of a popular public figure and Tom cat of his previous faith in spirituality. I, in fact, thank him who gave this news without any illwills in his post.
For RSSB followers as also for adversaries it was a major news who has been referred many a times for good or bad reasons.

GSD_THE_GREATEST
As I’ve said before, these babas are getting arrested left and right. What makes you think yours is so special?

@J
You are right in reporting the facts of dealing with emotions however these facts can be valuated and appreciated in different ways.
In his role as teacher he dealt with emotions like an surgeon. Who wants a surgeon to be emotionally involved as the dear ones do? Does this mean that the surgeon at work is a machine, without compassion?!
He invariable advised people not to get emotionally involved with people and ties that bind them in the roles they play but stressed that they certainly should do their duties. In order to do ones duties one has to look closely at the needs of the other person in order to fulfill these duties.
In many case one would love people to abstain from their “love” and attend to their duties.
Love has become a cheap commodity and means to to have an excuse to neglect.
The teachings …. see his behaviour within the context of what he had to teach … the liberation of the soul from this universe. Don’t you think that emotions are strong bonds that binds one to this universe??

@Um
Love plays a part in the spiritual journey.
And a very important part.
Whole scriptures are full of the importance of love.
Jin prem kiya thein he rab paya
Every disciple has immense love for his master. Without love there is no path.
And the master loves the disciple far more than the disciple lives. Just as a mother loves a child far more than the child can understand.
I am only referring to this because “emotionless” is not the path.
Many people may have become like that, but that is an avoidance of life, a way to run away from facing reality.

@ Osho
You are right in describing the essentials of the path … Gur Bhakti.
I never use the word and Hazur, was very reluctant, i think for good reasons, to discuss it beyond his satsangs explaining this or that mystics poem … whatever he said personaly or write to me was related to doing meditation and my duties to those i was bound in this or that role.
Satsangis love to discus these things like, free will etc. and … i was born in a cold climate … hhahaa … not in india were the emotions are easily fired into storms of passion etc.

Osho and Um are absolutely wrong. I read another holy book that said hate and emotional neutralization is the one true path.
Sorry suckers. You’re gonna go to hell, be born a trillion times or whatever happens.
Do none of you ever get tired of bloviating endless unfalsifiable hypotheses about the truth? It comes off as absolutely evil to me, and I hope that you suffer punishment.
Someone died. Just say “F” or “RIP” or whatever. Nobody needs your list of things you heard from old books about God. Fuck you demented devils.

@Jesse
You are right.
Whatever I know, is just hearsay … even making the coffee that I am drinking is a matter of hearsay … there is really nothing that I know of myself.

We are to leave this world one day, and if we are loving, obedient disciples, and
have made proper preparations in this lifetime, we do not have the transition
which we call death. While others weep, the spiritually developed soul departs
happy – happier than a bridegroom on his *wedding day. The time of death is a
critical one in our experience, when our friends and relatives are helpless to
render any assistance; but for the followers of Sant Mat, it is the happiest time of
all. The Master appears and takes the departing soul with him, and puts it in its
upward journey at the place for which it is fit. There is no rendering of accounts
with Kal, provided there have been love for and obedience to the Master. The
departed soul is happier than it has ever been before. There is absolutely no fear
of death. The Master’s presence within breaks all worldly connections, and the
mind is free to continue the upward journey. Hazur Baba Sawan Singh Ji (The Great Master) (Spiritual Gems, letter 164)
Rumi’s Wedding – https://youtu.be/BSJ86PK2Fbk
Near Death Experience – https://youtu.be/7l-nbk_8EII

Nothing wrong with you Jesse you are just boring.

Includes a scolding admonition to, as his guru said was the answer to all problems “do your meditation.” .
Posted by: j | November 29, 2019 at 07:12 AM
Through your myopic sight you may wish to see it as a scolding admonition. It actually is the usual reminder that’s voiced in every satsang, Q&A and book.
Meditation is the best prayer as Hazur emphasizes for
It gives us moral strength and also strong willpower to face our present karmas. It gives us strength to go through our destiny without losing our balance. It gives us strength not to sow any new seeds that would force us to come back to the creation. And it invokes his forgiveness for what we have been collecting in the past.
You must surely remember this since you have read all the books of RSSB and listened to many many satsangs. It’s from one published.

@Um
Love plays a part in the spiritual journey.
And a very important part.
Whole scriptures are full of the importance of love.
Jin prem kiya thein he rab paya
I am only referring to this because “emotionless” is not the path.
Posted by: Osho Robbins | November 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM
You are right Osho. The path is only about love. But singular love for HIM only and detachment from the world for as the path also reminds us that
Mittar tera koi nahi Sangian mein and
Jag Haumein Mael Dukh Payaa

I am reading many comments about emotions and love
These all are just human feelings..
Just like you sit in the Baba’s lecture and think he loves you..its your emotions which comes back to you..nothing from Baba(he is too busy in calculating his millions)
It works in a sane way when you see a baby in the train and your loveable emotions bring smile in your face
Or other example..when you see a nice tiger , Bear or a Venomous Snake other side of fence or in a cage..you admire their beauty and sometime wants yo cuddle them.
Just open their cage or Jump into their area you will see their real face, they devour you in a minute and soon you will be in their stomach.and now smile be in their face
The same way these fraud Babas like GSD (or politicians, actors) work. They impress you with their words, acting, false promises etc.
But just try to go to near them(they don’t let you though) …you will find their real face…lots of people who were close to GSD left him because they found the truth, the real face of GSD …and we all know after that what GSD propaganda did? Tried to defame these people and questioned their credibility (Brian is also one example)
Some people stayed with him after finding his truth due to their greed as they get benifited from big monetary gains(sone are in jail these days)
So don’t be fool with your emotions… that’s why Sikh gurus say..Mann niwan Mat Uchi'( Put your emotion down and keep your intelligence high)
GSD strong political relationship might saved him from jail(he might be dead before the final judgement) but the court of God will not forgive him..those all poor people, farmers, broken families prayers will punish him very hard. What he is telling other people about Karmas will have to face himself one day…..l guess the process has already started…..

Nothing wrong with you Jesse you are just boring.
Posted by: 💦 | November 29, 2019 at 06:03 PM
The art of knowing is knowing what to ignore. – Rumi

The master is no a human, he is all powerful. A Master has the power to change the time and date of death. All is in his hands, He is the Lord. So maybe master changed her time of death to now to save future problems.
He is all knowing and all doing. It is easy for him to do this and all her problems are gone. Dead people dont need to attend court. This is the power of a master. life and death are in his hands.

We live in the physical world. Yet follow spirituality cos we believe there is something higher.
Babaji represents both a physical being and a spiritual being.
His teachings should help us form our own spiritual Master, someone we turn to to help us connect to our spiritual selves. And despite what karma he is going through in the physical form, we should be strong enough to differentiate the spiritual master. After all that is why we are here?
Babaji will feel the loss of his wife but he has the capability to handle this better than most of us will. That doesn’t mean I shouldn’t feel for him and what he is going through.
I have my own battles with physical babaji. At a personal level my life is upside down due to his ongoing counsel with my soon to be outlaws. But thanks to this I get to find positives in my situation and I just have to say thank you Babaji as I rebuild. And I am more in touch with spiritual Babaji.
Ultimately we all need a belief system. One that works for us. If Babaji isn’t helping you or Rssb isn’t that belief system then please use your energy to find an alternative belief system. It will help you more than finding faults in this one.
Smile and be happy. Our lives could be so much worse.

Jesse’s last post is spot on. Punishment is due. But I also agree with those saying do your meditation. Just not under the auspice of any human, but based on the light within.
@Sunil “lots of people who were close to GSD left him because they found the truth, the real face of GSD”
It certainly seems that way. No Satsangi has an answer for this, I take it?

If you truly believe in the master, do you think he has no mastery over death? you think he is just ordinary man like others?
death is his choice. his wife has left and maybe he too will leave. if life is not enjoyable, why remain? How can he be sad? You think he is just ordinary? I think he is leaving soon. Death is simply leaving the body, which he does everyday. Death is not to be feared by a master. it is like playing with a toy.
swami shiv dayal took his soul up then bought it down again. death is a choice for a saint. nothing to fear.
if a sant dies, why cry? as he is going to his true home. cry for the manmukhs who are born again and again.
god bless you all

All, at end of the day, if an individual lives a good life, honest & benefiting others, he/she will be looked upon favourably by God, if he/she exists
Only weak individuals need to believe in these dodgy baba’s like Ram Rahim, Sai Baba (he with the astonishing Afro) & GSD
These Baba’s are purely a commercial exercise in India, which explains why there are literally thousands of these charlatans there. If India wasn’t such a religious country, girls wouldn’t be getting set on fire or raped on buses

Friends all … we are not at a level from which we can see all karmic interactions and what exactly the truth is. Perhaps we should therefore refrain from calling people names. Specifically, satsangis should avoid doing that which will bring shame upon their Master. And the uninitiated would be well advised to avoid bringing shame upon themselves by what they say or do. If we can all agree that empathy and loving one another is the highest precept, then let’s redouble our efforts at practicing it. Masters of the past have said that it is in our treatment towards others that our progress is known. Let this truth guide our actions, but not become the basis for tearing down others who fall short of the mark.

Many people don’t know this, but you can read something you disagree with on the internet and just move on with your life.