Open Thread 32 (free speech for comments)

I absolutely love poetry. It allows you to express ideas creatively, emotionally and in a nonlinear fashion if you so choose.
Anyway, I was reading random poems on related to Buddhism on the interconnectedness of all things when I came across this poem. It’s clearly more inspired by mysticism than Buddhism. I liked it so here it is:
Path of the soul, by Sabin Patel
I have lived on the cusp of anxiety and bewilderment.
Fragmented, mankind’s collective consciousness has become. Competitiveness is a hindrance to our natural state, wholeness; peaceful interconnectedness.
My eyes saw only aloneness and sorrow.
Tormented was I. Mind, paradoxical. Misunderstanding the propensity of Being; to witness the majesty of the unfolding cosmos.
Senses are evolutionary faculties for experiencing life.
But corruption of mind and misuse of thought brought maya [illusion]; gifts appear as prison walls.
Take the axe of love and strike the chains of imprisonment. Escape.
Walk out into the light.
The door is open.
Wake up.
Laugh at what you thought to be a nightmare. The nightmare was delusion of ego.
The goal is to die whilst living.
Light the candle in your heart.
Walk the path your soul directs.
Bask in joyfulness that cometh with awareness.
Know the path of the soul.
Know what the soul knows.
Listen, but not with your ears. The soul speaks in the silent language of God. The heart is the receiver.
You feel it don’t you?
Reconcile with that which once seemed lost.
Become a servant of light. A star. Look to the sky. Countless stars.
Shine your light where there is darkness. Light the candles in the hearts of your brethren.
Remove the veil concealing their true selves.
This is the path of the soul.
Break through the barrier of ego.
Become a lover, as humble as dust and ashes.

Beautiful poem dear Sonia!
Love to you
<3

@s*
And love to you too 💕
🙂

Hi Sonia
You wrote
“I heard just today (paraphrasing loosely) “unconditional love” is above the eye center.
” Boy, that’s a ways to go…
Actually you are already there, just scattered. Gather there, where you already are. Just make withdrawing a practice, and then flashes of insight.

if you cant speak for 30 minutes and still write 300 pages book, it seems strange or your understanding of English language is vastly different from U G Krishnamurti or Ishwar Puri’s understanding of language. I forgot to mention the fact that America was British Colony and India too.

if you cant speak for 30 minutes and still write 300 pages book, it seems strange or your understanding of English language is vastly different from U G Krishnamurti or Ishwar Puri’s understanding of language. I forgot to mention the fact that America was British Colony and India too.
Posted by: Vinny | May 10, 2020 at 02:32 PM
This seems really random. What are you referencing? The 30 minute satsang video they released for Sunday? I’ll wait for your reply before I fly into some paranoid, self-defensive rant.

Is self-defensive redundant?
U.G. Krishnamurti—fascinating perspective on life/death.
Vinny said:
“I forgot to mention the fact that America was British Colony and India too.”
My response:
OMG, really???
(I know.)
My mother-in-law was born 4th or 5th generation in India during the British Raj. She’s shared many weird and wonderful, beautiful and horrific tales.
Are you a student of ISHA?

This?
https://youtu.be/xth4MPbJwmc

“I’ll wait for your reply before I fly into some paranoid, self-defensive rant.”
Don’t limit yourself. I’ve never waited once before soaring into spastic mode, and its worked wonders for my psyche and achieving all my life’s goals.
I’ll leave you with this qoute from The Buddha-
“just say whatever you want lol it doesn’t matter anyway since we’re just coagulated carbon trash wobbling around like clumsy toddlers in a 3D fever nightmare”

It referred to the great blogger and champion of church-less movement.

https://youtu.be/0nYMDeW2ix8
<3

Random comment here (aren’t they all).
A sweet video of homeless man’s transformation: https://youtu.be/6a6VVncgHcY

Don’t limit yourself. I’ve never waited once before soaring into spastic mode, and its worked wonders for my psyche and achieving all my life’s goals.
I’ll leave you with this qoute from The Buddha-
“just say whatever you want lol it doesn’t matter anyway since we’re just coagulated carbon trash wobbling around like clumsy toddlers in a 3D fever nightmare”
Posted by: Jesse | May 11, 2020 at 12:32 AM
And how has that worked out for you? 😂
I was searching for a band called The Buddha to see if that quote was a line from one of their songs. LOL Anyway, it led me down a rabbit hole of Buddhist related books. One was pretty helpful but it’s more about a person’s struggle with certain thought patterns than Buddhist philosophy.
I was curious about the idea of thought patterns being genetic. There was some research years ago on whether or not thought patterns are inherited. Turns out sort of, maybe, not necessarily. 🤷‍♀️
(Still trying to understand free will v. no free will even though the answer won’t change a thing.)
However, I did find this one interesting piece online;
“We inherit cognitive function from our parents, in the same way that physical characteristics are passed down. Scientists have discovered that, unlike eye colour, cognitive function is not influenced by a few genes but by many. Individually, each gene has a small influence but together they account for more than half (or 50%) of the differences in cognitive function between us.
In addition, The Disconnected Mind research project team at the University of Edinburgh has shown that the majority of genetic effects that act on cognitive ability in old age are those that act on cognitive ability in childhood. This means that people with a higher level of cognitive ability in youth are more likely to have a higher level of ability throughout their lives and in older age.”
Anyway, I need to dumb it down a little and simplify. All this esoteric research is probably a waste of time at this stage in my life. Life is what it is.
I enjoy meditation.
Questions never cease… so why keep asking why…

I’ve seen a few mentions of GodBoss UG Krishnamurti without any honorifics in recent comments. Please, my one request is that when you mention him, put some respect on his name. Stop playing with his name.
I ain’t got no more talking. Let’s rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nebLQvywKKk

OMG, this totally made my day.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-9MBSJp_rb/?igshid=10h5wgvm8idi6
😂

I ain’t got no more talking. Let’s rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nebLQvywKKk
Posted by: Jesse | May 11, 2020 at 07:13 PM
😳wow🤣

Two New English sstsangs from Dera
https://youtu.be/xth4MPbJwmc
https://youtu.be/mDRN8_1AeYE

In their hearts Americans know that they were subjects of British Empire. In order to cover that hurt, Americans have invented American Dream, a post colonial form of British Hegemony.

Two New English sstsangs from Dera
https://youtu.be/xth4MPbJwmc
https://youtu.be/mDRN8_1AeYE
Posted by: Solomon | May 12, 2020 at 06:34 AM
I watched those. Saw the one that Fountain gave about an hour after it was posted. He ended it with “Goodbye” which cracked me up for some reason. Wonder how often they’ll do that…

Sonia who is fountain?

I think the problem of RSSB is evident in the two new English videos they posted. These are a combination of textbook definitions of Shabd, with apologetics about the Sangat (‘we’re like a hospital where the sickest souls come to be healed..’ . ‘We’re members of an exclusive club given priceless gifts by the Master,’ etc, etc…)
The videos demonstrate that the isolated/ insulated and self – promoting nature of the organization persists. The organization has a life of its own, like a cult, with its own self – sustaining dogma. The pagan idolatry still persists. And that’s too bad because Shabd and the inner journey, and the help of a realized soul are very real things.
But Shabd and all of us are manifestations of love. And where love is, there is no distinction of manmuhk and gurmuhk, private club or exclusivity. Chosen and special or ignorant and dammed.
No true Saint repeats these dogmatic assertions nor shows their friends to. No true Saint takes the authority of God to initiation souls. You have all the equipment within you. You were born with it. And no true Saint accepts a position on a pedestal, allowing anyone to describe them in this way..
This is a bad photocopy of a real path.

In this world there is rich and poor, beautiful and ugly, abled and disabled, kindness and cruelty. There is already a caste system. People turn to spirituality to be released from the clutches of that, not to be imprisoned in a new God-sanctioned cast system of saved and damned. There is no freedom in a more enlightened system of haves and have nots. What real pleasure is there in being handed permission from some invented version of God not to care about others? All the things spirituality offers are destroyed in dogma, sectionalism, discrimination. And using God to defend such prejudices simply perpetuates the insensitivity that leads to greater heartbreak. And making a human being an idol for worship is placing corruption high upon a pedestal of human excrement.

@ Sonia
Thank you so much for these video´s.
Finally after 45 years justice is done and the truth is spoken;
I have spend all those years in socializing in the kantine of that spiritual fitness club,
talk and talked about fitness machines and trainings programms.
I even had the arrogance of instructing others how to train
Hail to the speaker that had the clearity of mind to call a spade a spade.

@Jen
Fountain is the name of the speaker in the video dated May 10. He is a very good speaker. He attended the same Sangat that I went to when I lived in Connecticut. I think this particular discourse was good but it seemed a little “last minute” for him. Regardless, it was encouraging.

@Um
Yeah, I think everyone will interpret these according to where they’re at. For some it’s encouraging and for others it might be too dogmatic. Although, I don’t see it that way. I think their message is a lot more contemporary and relatable these days. But to each his own. I’m not a preacher. I’m not even a teacher.

Like I mentioned before, I took a good look at my life over that past two years and realized that when I stopped meditating things fell apart. I didn’t have the same motivation or self-discipline. I tried other forms of meditation but clearly they didn’t improve my life or my behavior. That’s just my story—it’s what I’ve learned. I totally respect the fact that everyone else has their own experiences and approaches to spirituality… or science.
So, even if I don’t understand some of the concepts and if certain things start to raise doubts I can still sit and get a lot of benefit from it. Maybe some day the “no free will” thing will make sense to me, but it’s not like it even matters. I mean we all make plans and set goals whether we believe in free will or not so it’s not worth debating. Also, the panic is gone. I am pretty certain it stemmed from something that was buried deep within my psyche. It just took a good while to figure out.
And as far as any personality issues I may have had with others, that really has nothing to do with my meditation. That’s mine and mine alone. We all practice what works for us. Life is a journey.

@Sonia
What’s your Instagram pseudo ?
just my curiosity
7

Sonia thanks for clarifying that’s what I thought that his name was that but wasn’t sure.

Sonia why do you promote those rssb videos on this atheist site?
This isn’t a RS official site it’s a self proclaimed atheist site. those rssb video’s have no place to be advertised here on a site not aligned with it’s teaching.

There is a lot to be said for idolatry. It’s simpler. It simplifies life. Anytime you can convince yourself that a higher power is there to protect you, it can help. Anytime you believe “God loves me” and that helps you cope, and relax, and do good works, it serves a very good function. The problem is when that belief becomes objectified into a specific physical person or specific organization. If him, then why not others? What makes him so special, particularly about God realization? Bam! You’re cooking a meal of idol worship.
Now every opinion of that person becomes the voice of God. How could it be otherwise? Every choice He makes must be the choice of God! The simplicity of pagan idol worship automatically begins to collect baggage. Stuff you intuitively or objectively see is plain ignorant and misguided. The same way we look at our own past. When we look at the one we idolize in retrospect, they had a few very human limitations. Now a good cult has answers for that.
‘First, being God they can’t be understood by us mere humans, who should never even question the Guru’s actions. That is a lack of faith that is also disturbing to our peace of mind. Secondly, we can invent some positive purpose to help us reconcile cognitive dissonance and the doubt it creates. He was balancing the world’s economy therefore the missing funds served a higher purpose. He’s not here to fix the problems of others or to stop crime so it doesn’t matter. If evil happens under God’s unmoving watchful eye, then it’s godly for the Guru to do nothing also. We’re too stupid to understand at our level because we haven’t done our meditation.’
Or,’ I understand but you don’t because you didn’t do your meditation, you weren’t smart enough, you weren’t grateful enough.’
If God is perfect and this human being is God, inevitably you will have to embrace this kind of illogical, magical thinking. To believe you are special, you will need to embrace being too flawed to apply your thinking to your idol. And now you have made your life easy. You can ignore any crime, any sin on anyone’s part that happens right in front of you, that you might have been able to stop, because it wasn’t your business, and God is in control for His higher purpose.
This is very selfish and irresponsible thinking. But it serves a purpose for people who are not in control of their lives, and gives them a way to gain some control over themselves, through worship, pagan worship, of their idol: by relinquishing their humanity entirely in exchange for freedom from the responsibility to be fully human. If you follow the moral rules of your pagan idol, simple rules to live by but always strict, then you never need to feel guilty or reach out to help anyone, unless you feel like it. If you meet your vows, you are saved, even if you didn’t do such a great job, .Once you make that convenient decision, logic no longer matters because no one does, right? And so what is clearly harmful and within full view becomes accepted as God’s will.
You think choir boys only started getting raped by priests recently? It was much worse before anyone spoke, and for millenia. God appointed that priest. He must be perfect. All this must be God’s will. We don’t want justice, we want love and mercy, so let injustice prevail.
When you find yourself thinking like this, you are creating distance between you and the true Master within you, God. He doesn’t want uou to relinquish or misuse your full capacity to think and to question. Because you are here to learn. And learning stops when you stop asking questions.

Do not ask Gurinder to tell you why he he sits in the role of idol and God. He’s not the one who can answer that objectively. He is doing what he was raised to do. And in an organization where every member has to ignore, excuse and dismiss what they see with their own two eyes, and accept whatever wrongs they see as God’s will, that starts at the top. It’s a culture.

When RSSB was willing to initiate the blind, the disabled, the institutionalized mentally ill, children and elderly alike, then it was a serving God’s will.
But you will have to honestly acknowledge that this never happened.
If not for the weakest of these, any offering in prayer, any effort to appeal to the Lord, even to help the Lord, who needs no help, is rejected by God. Because you have rejected His own. And any religion that rejects these children of God, placing them at a distance from the Master, refusing to initiate them, basically refusing salvation to them, saving initiation for an elite, that is far from God. No effort at meditation will ever get you anywhere on that foundation of filth.

There is another self – serving fallacy in RSSB, and it is this notion that a passion to help your fellow human beings is a distraction from your own spiritual progress. God isn’t here on earth to help starving humanity, RSSB claims. He’s here to take souls back to the lord. And the distance is so great, the hurdle so high that you must carry no attachments, and therefore helping others is an attachment that must be relinquished.
But I’ll tell you a truth. Were it not for the charity of RSSB, God would have wiped that organization from the face of the earth long ago. It is only charity that justifies its flawed and materialistic existence.
In RSSB we are told you should live comfortably.
But here is another truth. So long as anyone suffers, anyone goes to bed in hunger, a child must live separately from its mamma and poppa, or two homosexuals must hide their pure love for each other, no one can rest, least of all God. Because we are here to help each other. Our necessity to care for ourselves, to pursue happiness serves only to help others, and is served by helping others.
Why doesn’t God do this? He put you here for that. That’s how He does it. And the True Saints devote themselves to it.
Your salvation is His job. Helping others is yours.
There is one very fast way to be pulled through all the regions in a shower of brilliant glowing gems and a symphony of celestial music. And that is yo appeal to God day in and day out in meditation to give you the strength to help others first.

Sonia why do you promote those rssb videos on this atheist site?
This isn’t a RS official site it’s a self proclaimed atheist site. those rssb video’s have no place to be advertised here on a site not aligned with it’s teaching.
Posted by: halogen | May 13, 2020 at 05:21 PM
I’m not Solomon. I didn’t post them. And the only reason I included the link to the first video was because I was totally confused about what Vinny was referring to.
I certainly wasn’t promoting them here.
Like I said, Solomon (whoever that is) posted the two video links. I only copied the link to the first one as a reference to Vinny’s remark.

I think this is an atheist site where a lot of really confused believers come to vent. Not many atheists comment here (which is undoubtedly strange).
But I did not post those two videos. The first one I linked only because I didn’t know what that guy, Vinny was talking about.
Sometimes I think this is more of an anti RSSB site which is why almost all of the regular commenters were Satsangis at one point in their life.
Atheists or just anti-RSSB??

There is room for all views here. There is great benefit to a life of devotion, and the teachings contain such beauty. The RSSB masters are clever and largely helpful. It is however, a mere photocopy. There are foundational problems, structural problems that require lying to ourselves in order to Meditate. But then you are lying not to yourself alone, but to God who is within you.
And that creates distance and limits what your meditation can do. We should be devoted to that One within ourselves who is always there and can help us.
That isn’t pagan idol worship of a human being. Pagan idol worship is building a wall when walls must come down to reconnect with the Lord in you.
Otherwise you are building up one part of yourself, a relationship, an attachment to a flawed human being, at the expense of intimacy with your own Self.
It’s not a matter of rejecting the Guru. It is the simple matter that no true Saint allows His friends to put Him up on a pedestal with a title, with adulation and adoration that belongs to God alone.
It’s not a matter of whether you have met the requirements for initiation. No true Saint has any such ceremony. Their friendship is the connection.
And they are friends with everyone.
They are busy doing good work. It’s the best way to pass the time here.

@Sonia
What’s your Instagram pseudo ?
just my curiosity
7
Posted by: curious 7 | May 13, 2020 at 05:41 AM
sonia_loves_chloe

@Sonia
That was awesome and clear :
specially A LAW for every selfie : read a book
plus : I know U and Andrew now
7

Brian wrote :
I only saw him in person once, when I went to the Dera for two weeks in 1977
me:
Great figure is that
and
What great smile of Gurinder in that photo above.
Isn’t it marvellous the ONLY way to SEE. is
inside by stopping the ‘bull shitt thoughts
Indeed, if it was common the whole planet would come,
SK overloaded
and creation would end
This will happen while U happen to be reborn sir
77
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My letter to Dera that I mailed March 10th just came back today with this stamped on it,
“Return to Sender”
“Refused”
“Unable to Forward”
🤣🤣🤣 OMG, for some reason this was hysterical. Anyway, I think it’s because of the COVID thing but then again…
too funny

When science becomes a religion as it has, real scientists whose predictions are correct (the whole point of science’s existence) get censored-
https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/youtube-censors-epidemiologist-knut-wittkowski-for-opposing-lockdown/

And…. now I’m taking a course on DBT Skills Traing course. #selfcare

I cannot believe that in my entire 47 years of living that none of my therapists or doctors ever introduced me to or even suggested that I take DBT training. This is clearly what I’ve been needing my entire life. Wow. It is probably the first step on my journey to transformation.
Why do doctors immediately just prescribe antidepressants?

As bizarre as it may sound (and this based on three books I’m now reading), sometimes the people who make you feel the worst are the people who need you the most. It’s very dysfunctional and it doesn’t mean you should necessarily engage with such individuals. It’s just a good thing to keep in mind.

When I was at Dera last (“that” December) there was a satsangi that worked as a clinical psychologist for the Veterans Administration in the US who used to come to my room a few times a week when I refused to leave my room. Only now am I realizing that she was trying to teach me DBT skills. She was great. She was amazing. She and her husband were one of the few couples that my husband and I both got along with really well. Her husband had studied A Course in Miracles for years and was very open minded. They both had a great sense of humor and were very supportive and kind people. It doesn’t matter what your belief system is, there are truly loving and generous people in all faiths and all walks of life (the converse is true as well). We were lucky to have met and made friends with these two people. The rest of trip was a nightmare 😂 but meeting them was truly a gift.

google. SSRI school shootings

https://www.instagram.com/p/CANljFrpTX1/?igshid=368ujyk6vbst
🥺😍

That was so cat nice
We had about 13 dogs and 32 cats in this life
My wife who talks daily with Charan
was shown “footages” of ALL these cats
soldiers in her 17xx army who did more than asked for
in terms of cruelty
Meditation has many many nice side effects

google. SSRI school shootings
Posted by: 7 | May 17, 2020 at 07:49 AM
Google SSRI guru shootings

What a nightmare. Just learning about this. Psychiatrists suck. They dose you with heavy meds for years and never ask much about your personal life other than reading off a checklist (the same checklist) every time you visit their office.
This is why a living guru is probably not a good idea for someone like me.
I’m just being brutally honest here. Very painful and embarrassing to admit but it’s true.
https://youtu.be/to5qRLRSS7g

Never visited a shrink or real psychiater in my life
but I knew 8 of them
All in that business because of having harmed personalities themselves
Sonia
Can’t you just stop it
Perhaps in phases
It would be relieving
Like my opinion is
when u really lived through a horrible life, there is no other solution
Stop it
Or start music, painting as long U hv the means
7

@all. Little essay on “Non Thinking”
Often I wrote that a state of “non thinking”
must be achieved

I should have mentioned a difficulty
 to have it even during one minute, ” seconds, . . one second
The mind , and specially the ‘ahanker’ -part of it: 
 that is the part that is proud that it exists; the primal sin is that,
 it sees attempts to “less exist” coming from miles away
It will organize a real panic in your body
It will suggest the physical dangers, using lies.
An example everybody knows and that is
 when you want go asleep .
Normally and it happens often,
suddenly one or more muscles contract
unexpectively with a shock

It is even painful, – you might strike your partner in the bed

The mind -when seeing/having a certain short episode 
of diminishing thinking – just before sleep 
is trying to prevent this at all cost

and so uses this cramp or nerve-shot 
to keep us awake
Now how to “not think’ which is a real battle
There might be more but I know only of one way:
Try to generate sincere deep Love -
I said : this can work in many religions, 
so try to love Jesus, Buddha, Moses, any image that 
people have about God
 Zeus and Wodan included
Next generally the CORREPONDING chakras will become activated
This works also for the lowest chakras and used for voodoo etc
Try to consider the good you have in life or life itself and start to honestly thank . . . in a high chakra (above the eyes )
When that works The Sound will come 
and will be so sweet that you forget to think
Therefore in the beginning , it s hard to ask a question about this phenomenon

Like a puber,, exalted by the view of his/her first Love 
cannot eat, cannot sleep, . . 
you stare with ‘open mouth’ to what is overwhelming you inside you
THEN if you hadn’t it already, . . that sound will in a lesser form be with you all day and swell at times

 – You are inspired to do a second try and even more motivated 
than the first try . . . etc. etc
Therefore the Saints, the Masters say almost nothing else than : “Meditate, . . Meditate”
 Work with the Simran package Try to love some
After all , everything is God, dive in that stream

don’t worry, be happy
777

https://behiveofhealing.com/our-dna-is-listening-to-us/
Our DNA is Listening to Us
Communicating at the proper genetic frequency for healing
Our Beloved Family:
It’s commonly known that only 10% of our DNA is used for building proteins and maintaining body growth, functions and so on. Unfortunately, the other 90% is often referred to as “junk” DNA. How arrogant science is to assume that just because we don’t presently know what something does, it must be useless. Even common sense tells us that the mere fact that something exists in nature means that it serves a purpose. Now, Russian researchers working with linguists and geneticists are releasing scientific conclusions regarding our DNA that are nothing short of revolutionary, particularly when it comes to health and healing.
Our DNA follows a regular style of grammar and set of rules just like our languages.
The research team has found that the genetic code, particularly for the other 90% of our DNA, follows the same rules as all human language. It’s the alkalines in our DNA that organize themselves according to the rules of syntax, the same way in which words are assembled to create phrases and sentences. They even follow a system of semantics very similar to the study of meaning in language forms and adhere to the rules of grammar. Think about that. Our DNA follows a regular style of grammar and set of rules just like our languages. Spiritual teachers and healers have known for thousands of years that things like prayer, affirmations, and chanting could impact the body in a physical way to induce healing. Now, science is finally proving that our DNA is really listening to us. Of course in order to communicate with our DNA to affect a conscious change in our bodies, we have to do so on the right frequency of feeling we already have that which we desire.
In an interesting experiment, Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist, Pjotr Garjajev, was able to modulate a specific frequency pattern onto a laser ray and with it, change the frequency of the DNA and ultimately, the genetic information itself.1 Since the basic structure of DNA-alkaline pairs and language are the same, no DNA decoding or splicing was necessary to create this change. With this same method, the Russian team has been successful in repairing chromosomes that were previously damaged by x-rays. In additional studies, chromosomes, which Garjajev said functioned, “just like solitonic/holographic computers”, always reacted to language-modulated laser rays, provided the proper frequency was being used. This means with the proper intention and vibration, our words are enough to reprogram our genes and ignite the healing process within us.
With the proper intention and vibration, our words are enough to reprogram our genes and ignite the healing process within us.

Never visited a shrink or real psychiater in my life
but I knew 8 of them
All in that business because of having harmed personalities themselves
Sonia
Can’t you just stop it
Perhaps in phases
It would be relieving
Like my opinion is
when u really lived through a horrible life, there is no other solution
Stop it
Or start music, painting as long U hv the means
7
Posted by: 7 | May 18, 2020 at 02:50 AM
🤣🤣🤣
Oh, OK. Like magic? Just “poof” stop it?? 😂 Sure.
Right.
Yeah. (If only the answer to everything were that simple.)
But I can do art therapy. Art is pretty much all I care about second to “how do I fix myself”.

I love Ramani. I think she might be a god.
Some helpful info about narcissism: https://youtu.be/_uJs0iGQN0M

I guess you didn’t place this because it
affirms A VERY GRAND DESIGN
https://behiveofhealing.com/our-dna-is-listening-to-us/
Our DNA is Listening to Us
Communicating at the proper genetic frequency for healing
Our Beloved Family:
It’s commonly known that only 10% of our DNA is used for building proteins and maintaining body growth, functions and so on. Unfortunately, the other 90% is often referred to as “junk” DNA. How arrogant science is to assume that just because we don’t presently know what something does, it must be useless. Even common sense tells us that the mere fact that something exists in nature means that it serves a purpose. Now, Russian researchers working with linguists and geneticists are releasing scientific conclusions regarding our DNA that are nothing short of revolutionary, particularly when it comes to health and healing.
Our DNA follows a regular style of grammar and set of rules just like our languages.
The research team has found that the genetic code, particularly for the other 90% of our DNA, follows the same rules as all human language. It’s the alkalines in our DNA that organize themselves according to the rules of syntax, the same way in which words are assembled to create phrases and sentences. They even follow a system of semantics very similar to the study of meaning in language forms and adhere to the rules of grammar. Think about that. Our DNA follows a regular style of grammar and set of rules just like our languages. Spiritual teachers and healers have known for thousands of years that things like prayer, affirmations, and chanting could impact the body in a physical way to induce healing. Now, science is finally proving that our DNA is really listening to us. Of course in order to communicate with our DNA to affect a conscious change in our bodies, we have to do so on the right frequency of feeling we already have that which we desire.
In an interesting experiment, Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist, Pjotr Garjajev, was able to modulate a specific frequency pattern onto a laser ray and with it, change the frequency of the DNA and ultimately, the genetic information itself.1 Since the basic structure of DNA-alkaline pairs and language are the same, no DNA decoding or splicing was necessary to create this change. With this same method, the Russian team has been successful in repairing chromosomes that were previously damaged by x-rays. In additional studies, chromosomes, which Garjajev said functioned, “just like solitonic/holographic computers”, always reacted to language-modulated laser rays, provided the proper frequency was being used. This means with the proper intention and vibration, our words are enough to reprogram our genes and ignite the healing process within us.
With the proper intention and vibration, our words are enough to reprogram our genes and ignite the healing process within us.
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@777
That’s actually pretty awesome info you quoted about DNA syntax and stuff. 🙂
It’s sort of like a missing puzzle piece. Sound and music are everything. I mean, it’s like everything is made up of sound which has keys and chords and waves and particles. Everything in nature dances to the sound of music. It’s cool.
Can you send me the source? I’d like to read more.

You know how researchers show brain scans of the effects of certain thought patterns… I’d like to see the impact of thought patterns on chakras. I think it’s all connected—the mind/brain/body/energy.

If you throw it, be prepared to take it.
I think the principle applies regardless of gender.
Posted by: Georgy Porgy | May 19, 2020 at 05:56 AM
But the fact is none of us should be slinging mud in the first place. And I’m acknowledging my role in this. But it’s not just me and it doesn’t solve anything. If you do start throwing mud then most likely people will start throwing back. The whole thing is ugly and doesn’t help anyone.

The intention of the person has a lot to do with what effect various conditions have on the body. The most severe interference is tied up in a person’s belief system. There are no absolutes in human living. Some people can drink poison and not have it affect them if they truly believe that it will not, and others just think they will get ill and it occurs.

“But the fact is none of us should be slinging mud in the first place.”
The fact is a personal value preference?
I think we all should be slinging mud. Not sure if it’s factually what “should” be, but I like internet flame wars and insults. People don’t know who they are, and perpetuating the world of comfort and sensitivity wrought by the childhood viewing of things like Mr Rogers isn’t helping change that.
We learn who we are by experiencing more, and not be hearing nice, respectful, mature and bourgeois opinions that are carefully crafted with the intent of protecting feelings.

We learn who we are by experiencing more, and not be hearing nice, respectful, mature and bourgeois opinions that are carefully crafted with the intent of protecting feelings.
Posted by: Jesse | May 19, 2020 at 08:09 PM
Do you have kids?
Try that one out on a 16 year old. Let me know how it goes.

@Sonia
The source is at the begin
But I m still not able to find the
DNA frequencies on the web
Somebody?
I remember around 4, 5 tera Hertz
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Soul Distancing https://youtu.be/NU9P41Vifec

Every moment we spend thinking about God, loving God, worshipping God, honoring God, God is loving, worshipping, honoring us!
When we are thinking of him / her / it with a pure and warm heart, God is thinking of us in the exactly the same way. Maybe he is doing it a little more often! But definitely when we are.

Cat Powers wrote this song after she got sober. Not sure if she managed to stay sober. I imagine it’s a lifelong battle for almost all alcoholics. It’s a sweet song:
https://youtu.be/MVGgGW1ZalY

@7-77-777
Here is the info another friend sent me in the healing frequency of DNA https://patch.com/new-york/nyack/528hz–dna-repair–art-and-science-of-restorative-frequencies
I don’t know how I missed the link in your original comment but did go to the site and found it really interesting. Sort of in line with The Hidden Messages in Water by Masaru Emoto.
Fascinating
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hidden_Messages_in_Water
~sonia

I’m having to wait on my niece to get her braces off so stuck on my phone.
Anyway, this is Love. My husband dedicated this song to me years ago. He was really focused on the “you’re crazy” part of the lyrics.
Then one of my best friends just sent me this version of it. Sweet. ☺️
~sonia

It would help if I included the link.
https://youtu.be/brNtBvPT6e4

“Two things you will never have to chase: True friends & true love.”
—Mandy Hale

@Georgy
This has to be the most annoying TV show of all time. 😂 You’d have to be high on Adderall, caffeine and sugar to make it through one episode. I could barely make it through the one minute intro. https://youtu.be/8qR8bw013m8.

Both religious texts viewed the heart as the source of thought — a view shared by ancient Jews.
At least they remembered some
about our Chakra System, . . that Aliens try to understand and
otherwise ( than ment – kind of illegally )) try to copy since Billions of Years ( Yes with a B, . . several )
777
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Nice Song Sonia, Matthew

Both religious texts viewed the heart as the source of thought — a view shared by ancient Jews.
At least they remembered some
about our Chakra System, . . that Aliens try to understand and
otherwise ( than ment – kind of illegally )) try to copy since Billions of Years ( Yes with a B, . . several )
777
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Nice Song Sonia, Matthew
Posted by: 77 | May 22, 2020 at 08:29 PM
Aliens?
I like the idea about the heart chakra being the source of thought. I’ll have to do some more reading about that.
Yes, nice song. 😉

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You know, we debate all this stuff and send our minds spinning in search of answers—in search of the meaning to life. But we’re never going to find it. At least not in a way that we could completely convey to another human being.
One day we won’t even be here. We may have 10 years left, 20, 30, 40… but that’s nothing in the grand scheme of things.
We followed a path. Some of us have followed multiple paths and will continue to follow a path or just meander through the woods until the day we die.
As uncomfortable as it may sound, no one can actually prove the truth to you. Conversely, no one can shove it down your throat either. The only truth we know is the truth we feel and experience. The human mind can rationalize anything but that doesn’t necessarily make it true.
I can sit in meditation all day long and not experience anything supernatural. Many people sit in meditation every day, year after year after year without having even a hint of a mystical experience. And many will do that till the day they die based on blind faith, having no proof that there actually is something on the other side. They’ll die not knowing. What they do or don’t actually experience WHEN they die we will never know.
Even in Sant Mat, the majority say they’ve never had a mystical experience but they keep the faith regardless because it’s not a science—it’s a faith.
You can have faith in whatever you want. You can believe in whatever you want. But all any of us have to really go on is our own experiences—inner or outer… or upper or downer or wherever the hell direction you imagine.
My direct outer experiences with spiritual teachers and spirituality has taught me not to have blind faith. It’s also taught me not to be 100% certain of anything. However, I fully expect that my understanding of “reality” will expand and change over time. Change is the only constant. Hell, not only will we all die someday relatively soon (in the grand scheme of things), the earth will die and the sun and the moon and the galaxy. Everything.
I don’t know if there’s some divine order to things or destiny. I do know that I didn’t choose how I came into this world—an American white female. I didn’t choose the day I was born or my name or my siblings or my parents. I am who I am—a product of my culture and life experiences. These are the things that mold us. If I were raised in the Punjab I’m sure I would have a very, very different outlook on the world and would be a very, very different person. But that just wasn’t in the stars.
To better understand the impact of culture on beliefs and psychology, take a look at this (especially if you were born in India and even more especially if you’re Punjabi Sikh): https://repository.uel.ac.uk/download/f1bf93df46de3136cb3e0d8209739fffa543636bdacb319b5370a6a39ff38930/5379827/u1331813%20thesis.pdf

And after you read that 189 page document on Punjabi Mental Health, you understand why one might be better suited to find a spiritual practice that is more accepting of the cultural norms of Western Society. I’m blown away by the mountainous differences between western and Punjabi ideals and cultural attitudes. I resonate very strongly American values especially among my generation which were deeply ingrained in my teens and early twenties.
Honestly, after reading that (again 189 pages) I can understand why GSD and I were in complete and total conflict on the subject of mental and why our conversation—each expressing ourselves based on our own cultural identities—was so explosive.
It really helps to understand people. It can take a lot of work if you’re from cultures that have very little in common. But it’s important to try and understand people, where they’re coming from and why they communicate in the way they do.
It’s a very helpful paper. It will help you understand the reason why mental health is viewed and treated and even occurs in such different manners across the globe.
My husband is South African and 9 years older than me. 9 years older wouldn’t be a big deal if he were American. Hell, I dated and lived with a guy 16 years older than me and we had very little trouble relating on basic approaches to life.
But with a South African 9 years older than me it was like I had married someone who grew up with 60s machismo attitudes and of course there were so many cultural differences in viewpoints. But it has worked so far. It just really helps to understand where people are coming from. It took us several years to really understand each other but I think we’re there now.

If you’re a westerner you don’t go to a Punjabi guru for advice on mental health issues. They’re not culturally or mentally equipped to deal with it. That’s just not they’re thing.
The whole culture is different in their approach to feelings in general. Some of their attitudes and ways of dealing with certain emotions are better approaches than ours. But one should just stick to spiritual matters when discussing anything with a guru.
I mean, it must have been such a mind fuck when I stood up and started talking about suicide and depression. GSD was probably thinking Jesus Christ who would stand up in front of a group of people and actually admit to having these sort of problems? Who would admit to having these sort of problems to anyone? I’m sure it made him uncomfortable so he just said to me what every Punjabi mom says to their kids even today—pull yourself together, be strong, depression (they don’t even have a word for depression) is a first world problem. Meditate. Sit the fuck down.
And I, having been heavily shaped by the Grunge culture, was like wtf is your problem?? My generational subculture of friends were all about the music scene—Grunge music (definitely not the poster children of mental health). We were hellbent on claiming our right to express how fkd up we were. We had no qualms about that. It was perfectly fine to tell your deepest darkest secrets and you were pretty much encouraged to discover which mental health disorder you had. (Looking back, I should have joined a sorority or something.)
It’s funny though, other cultures, especially Punjabi, pretty much normalize distress. In some ways it gives people more freedom to act emotional without being judged. Look at Mirabai. She was a full blown nut job. Her behavior was bipolar/schizo at best. But her culture often viewed psychosis as a sign of spiritual liberation. In our culture it would be perfectly acceptable for her to talk about and get help for her mental health issues but we’d never normalize that kind of behavior. She’d be a good candidate for electroshock therapy. Yet in her culture she was revered.
Man, it’s a weird world.

Depression is a first world problem?
Like cults and pagan idolatry is a third world problem?
Do I detect ethnocentricism prejudice in both statements?
Depression happens when we are too tired dealing with a cruel and inflexible world, and cruel and inflexible people.
But we can adjust. We can simply not be here while going about our duties. Like the Lotus flower, roots in the mud, face in the air, enjoy the sunshine within.
Let your clone handle things here.
Mud is mud, darkness is darkness. How do we function in it? By keeping ourselves psychologically out of it. And the best way is to have something else, portable, that we can go to, we can live in. And someone else, our Master, handle things here throb our hands and feet. Take yourself out of it
The inner world is actually a bigger world. This place, this physical existence is tiny and fits within a tiny box. Keep it that way.

@Spence,
No, I just meant (based on the paper I posted a link to) that in Punjabi culture for example, they really don’t have a word for depression. They experience depression but they describe it, view it and deal with it very differently. They describe and interpret it as a “heavy heart or heavy mind”. They are more expressive and more accepting of displays of emotion. They have a larger, closer family and community network to work through feelings with. They are much more comfortable with a person expressing their feelings in a way that, quite honestly, we would view as excessive. But their acceptance of this emotional expression is a form of therapy for the individual so that they don’t keep all of their feelings bottled up. They express their emotional state through behavior without labeling or categorizing themselves as mentally ill. They also tend to present themselves to a clinical setting complaining of actual physical problems in certain cases where we in western culture would have already self diagnosed ourselves (redundant?) with a depression or anxiety.
Of course they have depression and anxiety, but they don’t see it as a long-term prognosis (in general). They’re approach isn’t perfect and neither is ours. But each have their strengths.
My point is (and you should read the paper because it clearly explains this) that every culture views and experiences what Eurocentric Westerners term “mental illness” quite differently.
The paper was enlightening to me. Not just about Punjabi culture—it included examples from cultures around the world.
It’s quite remarkable that Chinese women don’t experience menopausal discomfort. They really don’t yet. Yet it is an enormous issue here in America and parts of the “Western” world. I was in Hong Kong for a week and had to get medication refills to cover me for a few months in China. I was able to get almost all of them refilled at the Baptist hospital in Hong Kong. But hormone replacement therapy was non-existent.
Another medication that I use for sleeping could only be given out at a sanitarium. 😂 I was like “oh well, who needs sleep on vacation anyway”. I opted out of trying to get that refilled.
But I asked one of our hosts about getting the HRT and she said women in Asian countries (Far East) do not have that medical condition. And that is phenomenal to me. She believed it had to do with heat and cold. She had this commonly held cultural belief that seemed more Ayurvedic in nature. She said not to drink cold water. ?? She was my age she looked about 15 years younger than her age. 🤷‍♀️
Bottom line is, sometimes we have absolutely no idea what a person is really experiencing or trying to communicate to us even if we’re communicating in the same spoken language because our “cultural languages” can be vastly different.
I find it truly fascinating because I love understanding how people think differently and how different cultures perceive and address things differently. It’s fascinating on so many levels.
We can learn a lot from each other if we try.

Spence,
Here’s another thing, as a white American woman, the extent to how dramatically I’m allowed to express my emotions to others is far more restricted than my African American, Indian American and Latino American friends. This is probably why I have very few white friends. I’m a very expressive person and in WASP country I get super self-conscious about my behavior. People have these prejudiced expectations of how you’re supposed to behave and what meets the criteria of “normal” based on your class and race, even here in America.
Think about it! Maybe that’s why White middle to upper class westerners have a higher rate of “mental illness” diagnosis. MAYBE it’s because we’re expected to walk around with our emotions and feelings bottled up all the time.

It’s like my husband said when we were in Rome—he was 100% certain that every woman there was bipolar. 🤣

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz4wPMRebs0

Hi Sonia
The thesis overtly makes several good points, and inadvertently several disturbing ones. Like all of us, it is bound by the blinkered blinders of the culture of its author.
None of us are free of that.
The culture that allows emotional expression also prescribes roles, rituals and castes. The culture that claims to be superior to issues of depression also enslave its workers into lifetime indentured poverty claiming the right to do this as a karmic gift. Some are meant to be at the top, others at the bottom.
The very situation that causes western style existential angst is actually freedom from those societal constraints.
We look with admiration upon charity not quite understanding how the same religious organizations protect corruption and perpetuate poverty and slavery.
Depression may just be the cost of being woke.
And it’s solution? To take the reigns of freedom, and not submit to the ready corruption of cultural enslavement ever again.

Gdam anyone seen the Tiger King – morons unite?!
Gdam I seriously didnt ppl got that thick. The thickest of the lot might be the
Federal govt and public prosecutor who brought that ridiculous circus to trial. As for the so-called animal activists, they should euthanize the lot maybe even before ‘bhagavad’ doc mantle – seriously those animals shouldn’t be anywhere near Gdam Kansas or butfk wynnigag at all. The one asshat even a snow leapord in his truck! Can you believe it – it’s like the animal is extinct.
I actually can’t believe there are ppl like that in this world – been a while since I laughed so hard. The only two sensible ppl in the whole show are the amputees barely making ends meet living outa trailers, the old manager missing both legs and the girl missing an arm – insane. Put the manager in charge of the park and the girl in charge of animal rights and all problems solved.

“But their acceptance of this emotional expression is a form of therapy for the individual so that they don’t keep all of their feelings bottled up. They express their emotional state through behavior without labeling or categorizing themselves as mentally ill. ”
Look at their rates of alcoholism, drug abuse and suicide. Whatever they do in India, Punjab specifically, pretty much doesn’t work. Whatever we do in “the west” doesn’t work either though. Especially in USA. If anything we just allowed big business interests to pathologize tons of normal behaviors in the hopes of making everyone think that they’re crazy. Very profitable enterprise. SSRI’s for all.
The massive cultural chasm you describe has far more relevance to mankind today than it ever has, seeing as how the largest and most rapid mass movement of mankind has occurred in just the past few decades. Some bizarre fantisizers on this blog and elsewhere have bought into the notion of world peace through understanding, when the historical precedent is invariably the opposite. No matter what we might individually think is good, clashes of cultures aren’t learning opportunities, but rather catalysts for wars. Cultures need exclusive territory or else they fight. There is no way around this, and anyone who claims the contrary is either stupid or has very bad intentions and wants mankind to suffer.

Gdam anyone seen the Tiger King – morons unite?!
Posted by: Georgy Porgy | May 25, 2020 at 09:08 AM
The old Georgy is back. You’re IQ just dropped back to normal. 😂
Haven’t seen Tiger King but might have to watch it. People describe it as horrifically stupid and crazy but it just sucks them in and they can’t stop watching.

@777
Watched the vid yesterday. Even forwarded it to my mom. (I liked the Buddha statue.) 🙂 Liked the 50/50 thing as well. And free will vs determinism made more sense.

It’s great stuff – I expected it to just be a bunch of dumb rednecks wrestling gators and stuff, but it’s much richer then that.
The 1st episode was pretty dull, but as you keep watching the characters get more and more wierd. By the end poor old joe is surrounded by total shysters and he ends up behind bars – disgraceful.

@Spence
The focus of the paper was to contribute to the limited understanding of mental health issues within the Punjab Sikh community and to better understand the support system for Punjabi Sikhs’ psychological and overall well being compared with other South Asians.
The term South Asians in this study refers to people from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, Maldives and Bhutan.
All participants in this study had been living in the UK for either all or the majority of their lives and considered the UK to be their home. All but one participant was educated at post graduate level.
The need for a lot more of this kind of research in general is critical as the rate of suicide in South Asia is astonishingly high for young people between age 15-24.
IN SOUTH ASIA SUICIDE IS ONE OF THE TOP THREE CAUSES OF DEATH FOR PEOPLE AGED BETWEEN 15 AND 24.
(Kind of like our Native American Indian reservations in the United States.)
I’m very quick to jump to the conclusion that the rates of suicide around young South Asians is likely due to the caste system, arranged marriages and lack of good prospects for work. But I’ve done zero research of my own so far.
However, the paper mentions that earlier studies had revealed that family relationships were responsible for a majority of suicide attempts and for those diagnosed with depression.
Across South Asia there are insufficient mental health resources available to the majority. 80 – 90% of the population have no access to treatment. And then there’s the stigma associated—in most cases mainstream society rejects people accessing mental healthcare services invalidating their difficulties. People labeled as mentally ill fall victim to discrimination and violence.
More research needs to be done on the South Asian subsets—Pakistani Muslim, Hindus, Christian, Jews, etc. But this paper highlighted unique factors within the Sikh community which is primarily in the Punjab. A community which has historically felt rejected and ostracized by other subgroups under the South Asian umbrella.
Unlike many other religions in the South Asian continent, Sikhism is not a known barrier for accessing services. Sikhism does not state that psychological difficulties are caused by evil eye or spirit possession. Nor does it stipulate that treatment can be sought through supernatural powers. Sikhism actively promotes well-being and provides coping mechanisms. Sikhism is also unique in the South Asian continent in that it promotes equality among all, condemning the caste system.
This paper is definitely not saying the Punjabi Sikh culture has it all figured out. That was not the purpose at all. The research was intended to understand South Asians better so that Western medicine could be more effective at meeting their psychological and physical needs. By examining Sikhism and understanding the South Asian mindset they were able to get a glimpse into things that might bridge the gap in communicating with both South Asian Punjabi Sikhs and other South Asian subsets.
This is very important for those practicing medicine or psychology in the UK as the South Asian population is growing there at a fast rate. Doctors and mental health workers need to understand these people (South Asians in general) and their way of perceiving the world so that they can give them the best care possible.
What I liked most about this paper is that it highlights the importance of language when constructing experience and that Western concepts will not have the same meanings in non-Western languages.
THIS IS WHAT FASCINATES ME MOST!!! LANGUAGE & CONCEPTS. The biggest barrier is communicating cultural concepts. Languages themselves often have great difficulty translating specific cultural concepts. (And then some idiot starts a war.)
Disclaimer: I plagiarized bits and pieces of this comment from the paper itself and didn’t bother to put in quotation marks where required.
Also, jump to 105 for info on how it meets the Yardley Criteria. Not 100% but doesn’t matter for what I needed. Just a preliminary understanding. I’ll do further research.

It’s great stuff – I expected it to just be a bunch of dumb rednecks wrestling gators and stuff, but it’s much richer then that.
The 1st episode was pretty dull, but as you keep watching the characters get more and more wierd. By the end poor old joe is surrounded by total shysters and he ends up behind bars – disgraceful.
Posted by: Georgy Porgy | May 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM
I’m gonna have to binge watch that one by myself. Pretty sure no one in my family would be interested other than my older brother. But I’m not really in the mood for any sibling bonding time right now.

This is an oldie but goodie.
Trevor Noah—
https://youtu.be/vi7SeBI7z9A

Gosh, Spence, it’s like you’re this eternal utopian idealist and Jesse is this cynical nihilist. 😅
Can’t we just meet somewhere in the middle?
An analogy we use about trying to be a better person and make the world a better place despite the tendencies of human nature is cleaning your home. Just because it’s going to get dirty again after you’ve worked so hard to clean it up doesn’t mean you’re going to stop cleaning it. And you care about where you live so you clean your home and your yard and make it as nice as possible. Because that’s where you reside for now.
You can offer to mow your neighbors yard and help them out as much as you are able to as long as you keep your own home priority. It’s a good example and it encourages other neighbors to take pride in their homes and the neighborhood. I could offer lots of examples of how so many of our neighbors have helped others by living this way. We exchange help. If a neighbor hasn’t mowed their yard in weeks (which is unusual but has happened) either someone will go ahead and do it for them or we check with the HOA to reach out to them and make sure they’re OK. Fortunately our HOA isn’t micro manage-y but they are caring individuals. We try to work together. Although not everyone is as receptive as some. That’s always gonna be the case when a large group of people are put together.
It’s an interesting neighborhood to see this kind of intention in action. We are comprised of just three streets with one way in and out. We live by a lake and on a public golf course but it’s certainly not hoity toity. We’re middle-middle class. So, most of our neighbors don’t employ gardeners or house cleaners. Some do, but most don’t.
My point is, I don’t exactly look forward to house cleaning. But I hate a dirty house. If my house is dirty then you know I’m depressed. Same applies to our neighbors.
Just do what you can to help those around you. Life is short.

My whole point is you can’t change the world but do what you can to make the world around you better.

Have faith in Science
https://m.facebook.com/scibabe/photos/a.493223244147789/1867095013427265/?type=3&source=48

Have faith in Science
https://m.facebook.com/scibabe/photos/a.493223244147789/1867095013427265/?type=3&source=48
Posted by: Spence Tepper | May 25, 2020 at 10:19 PM
Peer Review 24:7 😂
That’s hilarious

@Spence
You wrote: Depression happens when we are too tired dealing with a cruel and inflexible world, and cruel and inflexible people.
I agree but I’d add even more to that.
First of all, depression and every other form of mental illness is your body’s way of telling you something is wrong. It might be trying to tell you something is wrong in your body—taking on too much, inflammation causes depression, hormonal imbalances, toxins in our food and environment, malnutrition or toxic relationships.
Any sort of “mental illness” is a message from your body. It’s a very loud message. In order to relieve the discomfort of the patient they are treated with urgent care measures—meds. And that is good. It’s a life saver in many cases, however, our modern society considers anxiety and depression and other issues affecting the mind negatively to be the CAUSE. When really they are the EFFECT—like your body’s last resort trying to communicate to you that you desperately need to correct or change something in your life. Often times it will require many lifestyle and thought patterns corrections.
But for us to view mental illness as the last stop is a big mistake. When we do that we’re not treating the problem. And without treating the problem people will continue to get sicker and more dependent and depressed not living up to their full potential.

“the Sikh community which is primarily in the Punjab. A community which has historically felt rejected and ostracized by other subgroups under the South Asian umbrella.”
lol they may have “felt” this way, but it’s their own doing. I’m still waiting for someone to provide me with the Akal Takht Hukam (Sikh fatwaa) demanding all non-sikhs be removed from the punjab. It was from circa 2008. Sikhs are an extremely exclusivist and chauvinistic society. Rejectors, not the rejected.
“Nor does it stipulate that treatment can be sought through supernatural powers.”
Yeah it sort of does. Constantly being in Guru’s grace by listening and chanting gurbani is supposed to remove all suffering. They make pilgrimage to Bangla Sahib in Delhi because “Sri Harkrishan Dhiyaiye Jis Dithe Sab Dukh Jaye.” They think the Gurus darshan makes all your pain go away. So maybe not personally achieving magic power, but the magic power of the Guru is considered the cure-all, and this is especially true for mental issues.
“Sikhism is also unique in the South Asian continent in that it promotes equality among all, condemning the caste system.”
They promote a lot of things more than they actually do.Equality is an ideal they utterly fail to live up to, especially considering that no Jatt Sikh on earth will marry a Ramgharia or whatever they call Sikh untouchables… Bappan or something. One of our resident Punjabis could tell you.
I’ve met more Brahmins married to Muslims than Jatts married to non-Jatts. Sikhs generally are amazingly racist generally speaking. You just have to be around them in real life and not reading some UK science fantasy. Once when I was staying in the Guru Ram Das Niwas at the Golden Temple, the big manager of all the guesthouses came in to try to impress the foreigners and he had zero chill. He just started going off about how dangerous black people are in USA and UK etc. Which statistically and relatively may be true, but in “polite society” of a supposedly egalitarian saintly religious people it is unheard of. Some British girl there looked like her dreams had been crushed by more truth than she was ready to hear. It was hilarious.
“I’m very quick to jump to the conclusion that the rates of suicide around young South Asians is likely due to the caste system, arranged marriages and lack of good prospects for work. But I’ve done zero research of my own so far.”
Many of the suicides are about usury and the fact that they destroyed their farmlands with chemicals. Many farmers, especially in Punjab, were riding high and buying crap thinking the green revolution turned their soil into gold. Now their state is becoming a desert because of way too much of a good thing. Predictably they blame everyone on earth but themselves.
The other half of suicides are fathers who kill themselves because Sikhs have a cool economic tradition called “extorting brides” where they continually increase dowry demands as the wedding day approaches, then use violence and cancelation threats to shame the brides family until the actual day of the wedding. Families are forced to take out exorbitant loans (that usury thing again) and pay off the grooms family with gold, cars and property. The father of the bride, bow being ruined completely and knowing he can’t repay his debts for the fancy cars he was forced to buy some drunken munda, takes his own life to escape. This is also why Sikhs have the highest rate of female infanticide on earth.
India had to make special laws about this specifically because of Punjabis. Beautiful culture. Can’t wait until the whole world is their gangland like Toronto.

A must read!
Seven Types of Atheism, John Gray
https://books.google.com/books/about/Seven_Types_of_Atheism.html?id=xDhIDwAAQBAJ
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/30/17936564/new-atheism-religion-science-god-john-gray

I just finished the first episode of Tiger King. Not at all what I expected. They are ALL crazy. You’re watching it and it’s like you’re suspended between laughter and the shock that there are people like that. It’s more entertaining than disturbing but still…
I’m speechless. 🤭

https://books.google.com/books/about/Seven_Types_of_Atheism.html?id=xDhIDwAAQBAJ

Not sure if my last post will even get published, but I should add that as much hard criticism as I will present about Punjabi or Sikh culture, I actually like the people a lot. It’s the disparity between the self beliefs and myths of cultures and their realities that bothers me, and it’s massive in that one culture in particular. And like all bad things, I think people need to hear frequently and be reminded that they’re not who they think they are.
I’m equally bothered by european supremacists who can’t admit that the pathagorean theorem was probably not from a guy named pythagoras because they fantasize about white people having invented literally every single thing ever, or Christians, especially the Orthodox, who deny their bloody history and pretend like they’ve done nothing but feed the poor and pray for 2000 years.
It’s kind of odd though that in this supposed enlightened age of science people refuse use available data to see through a lot of these sorts of myths of innocence unless it’s pop-culture approved. We’re too busy scientifically believing in equality to observe certain ugly realities that might hurt feelings. FBI took down charts literally because demographically parsed crime data offended people. Doctors in UK, knowing that certain kinds of religious garb would be unsanitary and cause infections in patients, chose to allow doctors to wear their magical bracelets and long modesty sleeves during surgery because not allowing them to would be insensitive. The government chose death of innocent medical patients over harming the feelings of foreign people from warrior cultures.
We’re in the dark ages.

@Jesse
Well, thanks for the education… there’s always more than meets the eye. I’ve always felt a strong affinity for Sikhs—not sure why. But I appreciate your insider view.
Regardless of what’s happening in the Punjab, mental health in all of South Asia is in a state of crisis.

It’s funny, in Africa (in the rural parts) the men have to pay a dowry to the parents of the bride.

It’s funny, in Africa (in the rural parts) the men have to pay a dowry to the parents of the bride. Posted by: Sonia | May 27, 2020 at 12:47 AM
Yes, – In arab countries too.
Who can tell about muslims in India
When ther’s intermarriage between Hindu or Sikhs – they pay both ?
Hindu Fathers with many daughters going financially broke
could seek muslim boys or is that inviting a death penalty?
I hate religions and their ways!
7

Yes, – In arab countries too.
Who can tell about muslims in India
When ther’s intermarriage between Hindu or Sikhs – they pay both ?
Hindu Fathers with many daughters going financially broke
could seek muslim boys or is that inviting a death penalty?
I hate religions and their ways!
7
Posted by: 7 | May 27, 2020 at 09:45 AM
Another reason why arranged marriages in our modern society should be considered a crime. Getting married and having kids is something people shouldn’t feel like they have to do. It’s nice to have a partner to share things with but it’s not like the world needs more people. As much as I love kids, there are plenty of orphans who need good homes.
I just think the Asian view towards marriage is a bit tribal to say the least.
Do they do arranged marriages in China?

Yes, this PC culture is getting on my last nerve. I must admit it really, really annoys me. I’m all for being considerate of people’s feelings, but we’re creating a culture where everyone looks for a reason to feel like a victim.
I don’t know how many times my nieces will share with me an issue that their group of friends are having and I’m like 🤦‍♀️
It’s like their generation sits around and comes up with new things to take offense to. My reaction is always, “are you serious??” I listen to them respectfully and then offer an alternative perspective. And then I make fun of them. 😜

We’re in the dark ages.
Posted by: Jesse | May 26, 2020 at 10:24 PM
And you are a beacon of light shining through the darkness. 😂
You’re intensity and passion is more often appreciated than not. Sometimes you’re a bit much but I appreciate your viewpoint if only for the fact that it is thought provoking.
I’m wondering if you’re like a triple scorpion or just bp. 😆

Wait until you see some of the other characters that roll outa the woodwork. All totally whacko without doubt. Dulalee crackers in the pip.
If you want to know about a culture that has lost touch with reality. His 19 y/o pothead gay lover accidentally blows his own brains out and ole Tiger King makes the funeral about himself. Humanity hey, no fking clue, and then we got the scientists who explaining meaning to us…

Ja look that racial profiling I never been a fan of, because it relies on gross generalizations, which often dont apply.
So while the 100m final is likely to continue to be dominated by ppl from west Africa with an unusually high-density of fast-twitch muscle fibers, and marathons will continue to be deminated by long-distance runners from East Africa for either genetic and/or geographic altitude reasons – that doesn’t mean anything.
One errant miscopied dna gene or combination might mean the next 100m champion comes outa Mexico.
As for intelligence, there are many different forms which science hasn’t been able to fathom, and the tests are culturally biased, but even if they not, even if there was some genetic predisposition of day, ain’t it the askrjazi Jews (not the arian Europeans) who got the most brilliant ppl on earth (or have the most Nobel prize winners) – this means jackshit.
You could still have a bloke coming outa sunsaharan Africa whose genetic lottery makes him brighter than everyone else. Statistically if there’s 10 genius in every 100,000 ppl there might be a slightly more or less genius in certain population as compared to others, but it’s neither here nor there, negligible.
Culture is the habits and norms people tend to adopt. Some cultures are arguably better suited for certain kinds of tasks or progress than others. For example, if one were to generalize one might say that the west has a more liberal outlook on marriage and sex, while the East takes a more traditional view. Which is better? For you to decide, but I’d suggest the idea of family and community is far stronger in the East than the west.
I’ve yet to meet a culture that has has a person who has not been warlike or loving. Sparta and Athens were neighboring states with virtually identical genetic material with different cultures, but different individuals within each culture too. In general the Spartans were more warlike and uncompromise, whereas the Athenians more intellectual and dandy-like.
I’ve yet to find a perfectly good or bad culture or country. In my experience, it’s more individuals who are good or bad, or maybe more accurately, have characteristics that you more closely align with or not.
One of my current friends is a Chinese guy straight from communist China, believes chairman Mao is a great philosopher. I laugh my arse off. One of the nicest ppl I know. Don’t judge a book by its cover, culture is skin deep.

If you attended high school in the sixties or seventies or watched CBS shows like 60 minutes or The Twenty First Century you saw the amazing microbiology films of Dr. Roman Vishniac. He was the world’s leading photographer of microscopic life. To him these were new worlds to explore. But in recent years his photography of life for dispossessed children who were murdered during Hitler’s rise has overshadowed his first love of microbiology.
https://bca.org/publications/news/spring2016/roman_vishniac.html
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+big+little+world+of+roman+vishniac&client=tablet-android-samsung&tbm=isch&prmd=insv&sxsrf=ALeKk01TbHBypeq212N28z1d83d5eQ1aZA:1590618891603&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjrxIaQjdXpAhUMSN8KHdmIDVYQ_AUIEigB&biw=800&bih=1280&dpr=1.5#imgrc=PI5-uOO8sY0RBM
https://youtu.be/a35SB438NHc

” I’ve always felt a strong affinity for Sikhs—not sure why. But I appreciate your insider view.”
It’s an outsider view. Insiders rarely see the sorts of flaws I’m talking about.
There are obviously a huge number of really great Sikhs in the world, and there’s nothing wrong with the ideals of the religion. But they’re in a really bad position right now. The instinct to blame Brahmins, blame the British or whatever else they’re doing helps nobody.
Someone mentioned the dowry thing as it pertains to some Africans and Arabs. I don’t know anything about that, but I’ve heard Muslim men have to give some amount of money upfront to their fiances which is what Hindus and Sikhs should start doing. I’ve told Indians many times that they should be like Muslims because right now there is high demand for wives due to the skewed sex ratio. Were I the father of a daughter there’s no way I’d be paying dowry. Women have a lot of untapped power right now.

“Statistically if there’s 10 genius in every 100,000 ppl there might be a slightly more or less genius in certain population as compared to others, but it’s neither here nor there, negligible.”
So first you say some groups are more intelligent on average than others, then you say others don’t produce any geniuses, but hypothetically could produce one genius which makes us all the same….Yikes, Georgy.
You obviously don’t keep up on the science or have any clue whatsoever what you’re talking about. Unless you mistakenly think that the word negligible means something of great significance and consequence. But it’s ok. We can’t all read about the same things.
There’s reasons why some places on earth literally never create or invent anything, haven’t ever figured out how to get clean water on their own, or in some cases didn’t make a connection between feces and illness, or sex and procreation after tens of thousands of years of existence. The opposite is true as well and explains why, as one example, some castes (breeding groups) in India are greatly overrepresented in math and science achievements than others even though they legally have less access to education at this point due to all the quotas. Hint- people whose brains are hardwired to learn can’t not do it. They will be autodidacts and create education if it isn’t provided.
If we talked about height or any other trait that was determined to a large degree by genes nobody would care. You don’t care that one ethnic group is shorter or taller because you don’t measure intrinsic human value by meters or inches. But why do we measure human value by the products that come about by having higher cranial volume? It’s no more or less absurd than using height. So one group paints more detailed pictures and has sophisticated plumbing. Does that make them better? Not to me. It just makes us very different and needing of our own places where we can express our cultures as they are.
Believe it or not, some cultures collectively truly enjoy violence, and some have religious rituals that require them to torture animals so that the gods can hear the cries. In the context of my culture those are sick and twisted things. But I wouldn’t judge them for doing it. Yet, we can’t have both living together. I simply cannot have animal torturing naked people running around my neighborhood, and they likewise don’t want my cold, semi-rational vegetarian lifestyle in their midst. Incompatibilities of these sorts aren’t overcome without one group killing the other.
Believing in “equality” outside of some kind of spiritual conception of it is the most brutal form of oppression possible. It’s like making someone play the hardest version of a video game right from the beginning thus guaranteeing they lose, or making a 300lb 65 year old man play and win games of basketball against NBA all stars if he wants to eat. In this sense I have to agree with Asians for the most part who don’t attempt to force people up into positions they’re unready for or don’t want. They tend to allow a more organic society to form where the “high” and “low”all have their place.
But what people do in Asia is neither here nor there. Negligible. I have my own rotting society to consider.

“arranged marriages in our modern society should be considered a crime.”
Why punish the most successful form of marriage? Far less divorce, far higher self-reported levels of satisfaction.

“arranged marriages in our modern society should be considered a crime.”
Why punish the most successful form of marriage? Far less divorce, far higher self-reported levels of satisfaction.
Posted by: Jesse | May 27, 2020 at 10:50 PM
Really? When you have no choice and there’s no way out (other than murder or suicide) then I guess there would be less divorce—especially when divorce may not even be legal for many living in those cultures.
I’m skeptical about the far higher self-reported levels of satisfaction.
I think marriage is the same around the world in terms of happiness whether you are in an arranged marriage or not. The happiness depends on two people wiling to work at it.
What disturbs me is young girls being forced into marriage. That’s criminal to me.
Arranged marriages and forced marriages are two different things. I think parents or family suggesting two people might be a good fit is probably a good thing. But the couple should have the final say as to whether they agree to it.

Jesse, no country is an island. We live in a global society. Unless you think we should abolish the internet, abolish global communications and international trade then you should realize the idea of cultures living within physical borders is medieval.
Besides, culture is a fluid rather than static.

Hello India!
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/10/india-technology-development-silicon-valley/

@Spence,
Wow! Dr. Roman Vishniac‘s photography of microscopic life looks like beautiful images of abstract art.

Posted by: Georgy Porgy | May 27, 2020 at 11:21 AM
For once I completely agree, without question, with one of your entire “serious” comments. (Tiger King doesn’t count—I agree but it’s too weird.)

“What disturbs me is young girls being forced into marriage. That’s criminal to me.”
Why doesn’t it disturb you that young boys are forced into marriage?
“Unless you think we should abolish the internet, abolish global communications and international trade then you should realize the idea of cultures living within physical borders is medieval.”
The the entire world outside of Europe and a few posst-British countries are medieval. Indians do not allow foreigners in India, Chinese do not allow citizenship to non-Chinese, Latin America is full of nationalism and ethnic pride and the list goes on and on. Culture is what happens within borders, and everyone has a right to their own culture.
When you start advocating for the 3rd world to allow themselves to be colonized again I’ll believe that you’ve actually thought about what you’re saying, because that’s what you’re saying anyway without knowing it.
And I do indeed think we should begin limiting global trade, and most certainly close the borders in USA. We should have done it 40 years ago.
This is the effects of immigration and the corresponding disintegration of culture happening in Minneapolis right now- https://imgur.com/aKaaOTZ
I can’t upload video here, but I have a vid of a car full of people driving around yelling “shoot the white folks! shoot the white folks!” So, I guess if that’s the sort of society you like, continue believing what you believe.

@Jesse
You know, lithium’s not just for batteries…

Sedating myself with hard drugs to hide from reality just isn’t my style, Sonia.

I don’t mind your viewpoint Jesse, there may even be some truth to it , but I’m just not a fan of cultural stereotyping.
I suspect your view is more born out of the intelligentsia’s perspective in trying to poke holes in an overly PC outlook, which is that everything is equal, rather being born out of ignorant right-wing bigotry.
I agree there are differences. Every hunan being has a different fingerprint, let alone genome, but as a whole we’re awful bloody close to one another, and even awful close to chimps. Someone once said to me that most people who suffer from culture shock are hung up on the differences, but fail to recognize all the similarities. For example, none of us have wings to fly or gills to breathe underwater. Our intelligence and physical abilities lie within a limited spectrum.
You say there are some regions where no one has produced anything. Short of the polar extremities, name me one such culture and I’ll try prove you otherwise in some era or another. Cultures wax and wane, just like everything else. Six hundred years ago the Chinese were quantum more leaps more advanced than the Europeans. North America was a scientific backwater just a couple hundred years ago – it still is in many parts. The US culture itself has mammoth differences that can vary from the Hippy PC chardonnay socialist to the The Tiger King redneck. I’m not sure either is better or worse. Which do you prefer?
I think virtually every human culture on earth has made many advancements in different times in their history, often completely independently. Even ancient people who live traditional lives today can be utterly ingenious in surviving.
So no I don’t think one culture or country is necessary that much better than another. I think there can be cultures who can be the height of cultural and scientific sophistication, while at the same time hold ignorant and positively backward beliefs over their own superiority. But even if the mainstream view is ignorant, there are always exceptions and counter-cultures who think differently.

Georgy, the people of papau new guinea and australian aboriginals lived in basically a paleolithic way until recently, and still do for the most part, as do the indigenous on the andaman islands. And again, I’m not saying there’s anything intrinsically bad or wrong about that way of life. But they don’t adjust to “our” ways, and we don’t adjust to theirs when we meet. All that happens is a lot of conflict and strife.
You could make the case that in a long gone era, tens of thousands of years ago, some things they did were absolutely critical in the development of modern western man’s culture, sure. But today they’re unable to adapt to the extremely complex systems we have created. In Australia there are television commercials reminding aboriginals not to sleep on the roads at night because cars can’t see them. There is an unbridgable gap between cultures who do and don’t sleep on the road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA241Lg70fg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qClBRaretEk
“The US culture itself has mammoth differences that can vary from the Hippy PC chardonnay socialist to the The Tiger King redneck. I’m not sure either is better or worse. Which do you prefer?”
I prefer neither. I find my people to be somewhat savage and backward in everything we do. We left all our commendable traits back in Europe for the most part.

Sedating myself with hard drugs to hide from reality just isn’t my style, Sonia.
Posted by: Jesse | May 28, 2020 at 10:12 AM
I thought you smoked weed…
Besides, “reality” is debatable.

I prefer neither. I find my people to be somewhat savage and backward in everything we do. We left all our commendable traits back in Europe for the most part.
Posted by: Jesse | May 28, 2020 at 12:43 PM
Jesse vs. The World

“I thought you smoked weed…”
God I wish. The sensation is great but it makes me extremely self conscious in a bad way and very paranoid.

Jesse
Always an interesting perspective. I guess you’d probably say we’re all pretty dodgey when it comes down to it. In regard to Australian Aboriginal culture I read this recently and have to say was quite shocked and appalled :
https://www.smh.com.au/national/blast-destroys-one-of-country-s-oldest-known-aboriginal-heritage-sites-20200526-p54wmt.html
46,000 years of history for God’s sake. It is of particular interest because I used to work in this industry as a geologist, and one of the reasons I left was this very issue. Over time, the company I worked for were also involved in the removal of Aboriginal sacred sites, and the roads upon which the indigenous folk lay in protest had bulldozers on them. Looks like not a lot has changed in 35+ years.
I remember visiting other such sites and had feelings of awe and reverence. A mix of thoughts about struggle, survival, tribalism, evolution, as well as community, ancestors, wisdom, and powerful knowledgeable connection of humanity with the natural world over eons. A good term for it is ‘Deep Time’.
BFN

“Someone once said to me that most people who suffer from culture shock are hung up on the differences, but fail to recognize all the similarities.“
Georgy, have you ever been to India? Unless you spent one of your past lives there I’m pretty sure you would experience culture shock. If there were no differences to behold then we wouldn’t have different cultures to begin with. Over time you can get familiar with a different culture and then it becomes comfortable, but I think it’s only natural to observe differences.
Have you watched the Q&A of your favorite person?

I’m going to post this one on Open Thread instead of ‘There’s no reason to doubt the mind is material’ because it mixes in a lot more of the spiritual aspect to the mind/body/spirit relationship.
https://youtu.be/QNS3AU0w1hM

”I prefer neither. I find my people to be somewhat savage and backward in everything we do. We left all our commendable traits back in Europe for the most part.“
I don’t agree. I think you took your most commendable traits with you to the colonies. An “independent pioneering can-do spirit”, which most of the new world has. Go live in Europe for a few years and you’ll see some truly useless feckers.
I agree that people in some islands, polar regions and other deeply inhospitable deserts or jungles, may not have advanced a lot, but anywhere where there is a large group of humAns, there is likely to have been progress. Actually, I’d argue that the civilizations with the most diverse cultures are the strongest and possibly most advanced ones. Old empires were estvablished with trading network comprised of different cultures, the bigger and more successful and advanced the empire is likely to be.
The USA is a nation of immigrants and different cultures – the most powerful nation the world has ever seen. It’s a veritable cultural boiling pot of ‘unpedigreed bastards’ who’ve gone onto pretty much rule the world.
“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
Sonia,
No I haven’t been to India though I have a very good female friend from Pakistan and yes I might experience a culture shock going to India, but I like experiencing new cultures. I think people from different cultures can get on and even become extremely good friends. I’ve got maybe a little over 10 really good pals – they come from Oz, NZ, Canada, UK, South Africa, China, Pakistan, Philippines, Belgium. I’ve lived in about 5 different countries and I’ve yet to find any culture or country intolerable or truly ‘better’ than the rest. They each have their pros and cons.

🚀 ⭐️ 🌙 💥 🇺🇸
OMG, I’ve been waiting for this to be released on Netflix for weeeeeks!
I am so excited! Hope it doesn’t disappoint.
SPACE FORCE!
https://youtu.be/l4mY2asIjWk
TGIF Happy Friday!
🚀 ⭐️ 🌙 💥 🇺🇸

I’m going to post this one on Open Thread instead of ‘There’s no reason to doubt the mind is material’ because it mixes in a lot more of the spiritual aspect to the mind/body/spirit relationship.
https://youtu.be/QNS3AU0w1hM
Posted by: Sonia | May 29, 2020 at 02:43 AM
I don’t know how many people actually look at the links posted on Open Thread but this one (above) is a talk by Ishwar Puri that is titled Scandals and Masters. Which is interesting. It somehow ties into the last Q & A AND the physical brain vs mind and consciousness.
Interesting… (thanks Dungeness)

And for the record, I am NOT a “follower” of Ishwar’s. I only liked that one particular talk.

Sonia,
No I haven’t been to India though I have a very good female friend from Pakistan and yes I might experience a culture shock going to India, but I like experiencing new cultures. I think people from different cultures can get on and even become extremely good friends. I’ve got maybe a little over 10 really good pals – they come from Oz, NZ, Canada, UK, South Africa, China, Pakistan, Philippines, Belgium. I’ve lived in about 5 different countries and I’ve yet to find any culture or country intolerable or truly ‘better’ than the rest. They each have their pros and cons.
Posted by: Georgy Porgy | May 29, 2020 at 10:50 AM
“A very good female Pakistani friend” 😉 Good for you. Maybe that’s why you’ve relaxed so much. 😊 See, women aren’t all bad. They probably prevent more wars than they start.

For those of you who “don’t get it”
Here are Somalis in Minneapolis who are burning the city down supposedly to protest unjust killings by police…………… DEMANDING THE RELEASE OF A COP WHO KILLED A WHITE WOMAN FOR NO REASON JUST BECAUSE THE COP IS SOMALI
Good luck in your naivety. Hope it wins points in heaven, because it does nothing but cause destruction here.
https://twitter.com/IceyRedcups/status/1266590693935288320

“I’d argue that the civilizations with the most diverse cultures are the strongest and possibly most advanced ones.”
Georgi, in really long timetables things are very different. It’s possible that after hundreds of years many cultures blending together can become something great, but it’s no guarantee, and the short term effects are almost always war. I’m not sure the war is worth the potential.
Everyone in existence today is the product of multiple cultures/races/ethnicities coming together either by rare peaceful migration and merging, or more commonly conquest and rape. Seeing that there are dozens of cities in USA right now being burned to the ground, all the riots based on the racial hatred of white people if we’re being honest, it looks like the conquest and rape scenario is dominant again.

@Jesse
Isn’t your wife Indian? I always assumed you were white. Are you Indian too? And both from America or not?

Sonia
I never said women are bad, I said you are crackers in the pip. The two ppl I respect most in my life are women, and I’ve got several female friends. You shouldn’t jump to conclusions about people just because they disagree with you. You wanted to get my input on India, well Pakistan is pretty close even they they hate each other.
Jesse
America has always had v liberal freedom of speech laws – I don’t think it’s generally a v liberal or free country compared to Europe in many other respects, but when it comes to free speech virtually anything is allowed including religious and hate speech, and I respect that, although it can cause massive problems in terms of civil unrest, etc. The other thing is is way liberal on is the right to carry arms. Combine that with hate speech and a healthy dose of paranoia and you got a recipe for disaster.

“Isn’t your wife Indian? I always assumed you were white.”
Yes, both correct.
Not sure if you’re just wondering or you have something else to add, but if it’s some weird thing where you don’t/won’t/can’t distinguish between individuals and groups, I’m gonna spazz.

@Georgy
I’m only going to say this once but I hate you, truly. For real. And I think that’s fair game because you told me to fck off a number of times. You’re probably Gurinder with some stupid pseudo.
@Jesse
You don’t have to spazz. When I read that last line I laughed my ass off.

Sonia
I never said women are bad, I said you are crackers in the pip. The two ppl I respect most in my life are women, and I’ve got several female friends. You shouldn’t jump to conclusions about people just because they disagree with you. You wanted to get my input on India, well Pakistan is pretty close even they they hate each other.
Posted by: Georgy Porgy | May 30, 2020 at 12:43 AM
And, FYI, what I said to you (which prompted this weird response of yours) was a compliment to you or a congratulations for having a girlfriend.
I may be crazy but you have multiple personalities (let’s just call it a disorder) and you’re more paranoid than I am.

Fuck this. It’s gonna be a Chardonnay day. Maybe the whole weekend.

Sonia
I never said women are bad, I said you are crackers in the pip. The two ppl I respect most in my life are women, and I’ve got several female friends. You shouldn’t jump to conclusions about people just because they disagree with you. You wanted to get my input on India, well Pakistan is pretty close even they they hate each other.
Posted by: Georgy Porgy | May 30, 2020 at 12:43 AM
It’s funny, women who have had kids develop this sort of weakness where they can feel some sort of weird, undeserved empathy towards people who act like assholes. It’s almost like they can see the child in everyone.
Fortunately for me and unfortunately for you I don’t have that weakness.

It will be a more balanced world as far as the genders are concerned when fewer women decide to have kids.
Those baby hormones make women lose their objectivity. And men can’t handle a woman who isn’t “ladylike” or subservient. Well, it’s time for that to change. All the misogynists are in for a rude awakening. Women aren’t here to serve your every need.

My sister-in-law just turned 40. She had her first child a few months ago and never planned on having children. She used to be so tough and opinionated. I don’t even recognize her anymore. She’s turned into this empathetic mush of a person. It’s not a bad thing but she is not at all the person I’ve always known. She’s so much softer it’s disturbing. Just having a baby and now she’s all “understanding” and patient. Weird as hell.

Gurinder is a selfish asshole.

America is quickly becoming like South Africa. A country where white people need fortify their houses with multiple levels of security doors to protect their elderly from getting raped and tortured to death by mobs of savages.
Good luck everyone! Most of you asked for this.
https://twitter.com/AndySwan/status/1267081816873328640

Thanks Jesse for that video you posted. It shows what a violent world we live in. You say “Good luck everyone! Most of you asked for this.”
Did I ask to be born in a country where the white skinned people have always been targeted as “racists”? When we moved to New Zealand and then Australia I was shocked how racist people were towards us – the white ex-South Africans. I remember being told by someone in NZ “I would not have spoken to you if I had known you were from South Africa”. I have British ancestry and I changed my accent as fast as I could and just kept to myself and my family. The interesting thing is that people don’t realise that calling a person “racist” according to the country they were born in and the colour of their skin (if its white) is that they are actually being racist themselves.

“Get the white people! Get the fucking white people!”
This is the society that science as a religion creates.
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1267249136937689089

Spence Tepper’s glorious previously described vision of the future in actual reality has become elderly white people dragged from cars and beaten by mobs as the news calls the attackers victims and the victims evil racists who deserve death.
https://twitter.com/suhteddey/status/1267215081265217537
And Jen, I know you’re from South Africa, and I know what horrible sorts of atrocity are done against people like you in South Africa, and that’s why I feel actual hate for people who desperately want more of that sort of evil in the world. I hate them and how they snarkily brag about how good and morally superior they are for supporting every single thing that leads to violence, but suddenly like chameleons changing their face when the violence actually starts. They believe the same media propaganda that allows helpless Afrikaners to be viciously raped and slaughtered while being accused of being the aggressors.

Tim Rimmer, destroying ancient things is happening all over. Norway had a non-Norwegian Muslim women in charge of some cultural heritage department who turned ancient pagan megalith sites into parking lots. May she burn in hell forever.
in India the government has basically decided that “Adivassi” aka indigenous people’s megalithic stone structures are fine to be routinely destroyed in order to build modern temples and crappy roads. It’s disgusting, and India will get away with it without a peep from all the social justice army of the west.
It’s sort of funny, but the existence of Adivasi people and their megaliths basically prove that the Aryan Invasion theory is correct. I sometimes wonder if India wants to intentionally erase their culture so as to magnify the culture of Hindus who are mistakenly considered to be the indigenous people of India.
It’s kal yug baby! Everything going to shit.

Here is the Mexican police chief of an American city telling a bunch of black people that in fact all the thousands of hours of video footage of most non white people destroying cities across the USA are I guess animation or something, and it’s actually white kids on skateboards burning down the cities.
Look up the steps that happen before a genocide. White people are about to get massacred. None of this stuff is accidental. If you supported these kinds of people with your morally arrogant and self-hating attitude, you votes, or worse with your money or material support, may you burn in eternal hell.
https://twitter.com/GrantB911/status/1267203616026345473

“They believe the same media propaganda that allows helpless Afrikaners to be viciously raped and slaughtered while being accused of being the aggressors.”
So true Jesse. Breaks my heart.
I’ve been looking at the recent violent protests on youtube and it sure is the dark days of Kali Yuga.

Anti Trump morons, this is what you chose. Mobs attacking journalists for the crime of being white. Good job. You made a wise choice. Unless skulls start getting cracked soon and these riots stopped, this will be your new leadership.
Don’t you dare complain about it in the future.
https://twitter.com/WhiteHovse/status/1267312066978693122

I was practically on GSD’s side until GP showed up again and reminded me what the “Holy One’s” biggest fans are truly like. Ick. Yuck.

I guess that’s why Brian allowed GP to start commenting again—so that we could remember the truth.

Fuck you, Georgy.

–
Such is the power of a Genuine SatGuru
that if you have a snip of an old journal with HIS IMAGE printed or nothing of this kind
and you have Genuine Faith in HIM :
your Three Wishes will be fulfilled, whatever they are
Blessed those who understand
Some Respect for the bricks of creation
777

“Norway had a non-Norwegian Muslim women in charge of some cultural heritage department who turned ancient pagan megalith sites into parking lots.”
I think that was Sweden, not Norway, but the Minister of Culture was Alice Bah Kuhnke, a native Swede and possibly Christian. Wikipedia: “Bah was a member of the Swedish Church synod from 2006 until 2010,[10]”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Bah_Kuhnke
I found the most detail on the story here in a Nazi news site. If she were Muslim, they’d almost certainly have said so, but she has other strikes against her, such as being liberal.
https://dailyarchives.org/index.php/10-news/1364-multiracial-sweden-erases-own-history-by-turning-viking-artifacts-into-scrap-metal
They don’t mention it, but in images she looks suspiciously female and of African ancestry.
https://images.app.goo.gl/MnxfEtKk4PYiX3x4A
In Norway, ironically, the greatest threat to archaeological heritage is climate change.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/26/world/climate-change-threatens-archaeology-intl/index.html
Climate change, the “liberal hoax” right wingers deny but that will only accelerate the migration patterns they oppose.
The right should bow down before Bill Gates and kiss his feet. If anything, his “secret agenda” is to make life more tolerable to people in the developing world 1) so they’ll appreciate Western Civilization and 2) so they can all stay put!

Yeah, Anami, whatever that chick is, she wasn’t Scandinavian, and she’s one of many non-Scandinavians actively working to wreck Scandinavia. Also, climate change cannot be stopped. It’s a stupid issue, not worth talking about. Long before human civilization the climate changed in much more dramatic ways all the time.
On another note, the super scientific and honest media made many sad and dumb Americans so butthurt about Trump that they are willing to burn houses down with children inside just to feel happy. Cool stuff!
https://twitter.com/DakoolestE/status/1267628359892131840

Jesse,
Looters and arsonists belong in jail.
The official in the video is the Police Chief of Richmond, VA. He sheds a tear before saying, “When you take a legitimate issue and hijack it for unknown reasons, that is unacceptable….”
Meanwhile, you’re gloating and clapping Trump on the back. In essence you’re saying that because criminals take advantage of protests and Swedes can’t dig a hole without unearthing sacred Viking rust, red-blooded Americans have no choice but to kill unarmed black men like George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, etc, etc.
Here are looters at Zumiez…
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-looters-midtown-protests-20200602-uw6jispwiffmpfpiiakhj36d7m-story.html
Here they are at Nike…
https://mobile.twitter.com/stillgray/status/1267645743663206401
Do you actually think those kids watch CNN or read the Washington Post? Try it sometime. Don’t expect to run riot. Expect to fall asleep in a puddle of drool.

@Sonia
About “cannot be initiated”
and BBJ’s remark on severe disorders, including born blind saying something like :
“U wouldn’t understand what I see”
Compare this with :
Going in before your time in this pinda astral world°° which
would make in a second a jeeva completely INSANE
I mean SO INSANE that even an observer loses his mental balance
and can become crazy as well
°° or see THIS Planet
Imaging the worst misdades the top cruelty like from Pol Pot, Mao, Nero or
from thegenocide against the armenians with tens of miles
of women, children & men , cruxified along the road free for passengers to misuse
as according to their pervers taste
and so much much much more
Then take such a culprit who didn’t learn, even after 600 000 lives
next asking for initiation, . . not for love
but in his/her mind to obtain powers for taking revenge
That’s why GSD said paraphrased “u coudn’t survive such ‘insight’ such mental view
So don’t judge about why people can’t be initiated
Don’t think Kal to be in-active
Always have in mind that most have not 5 or 9 past lives, but
9 to the power of Square 9 x9 past lives : innumerable
For me this is easy , having seen that i was a murderer a few lifes ago
which I told here long ago
777

Dear 777
There is no need for initiation to exclude those with physical disabilities on the basis of their disability from spirituality. It’s just another form of racial prejudice from the past. In ages past tribes would consider those with a disability as cursed. Rather than care for them, nurture and protect them, it was often the custom to reject them, and even kill them. This barbarism was all under the superstitious notion that these people were cursed and protecting them might bring curse upon oneself. This is inhuman and contrary to spirituality, which is universal brotherhood among equal souls. Any organization that violates this principle is an abomination to God and humanity.
In your own statement you claim those born with disabilities did terrible things in their past lives. This superstitious and actually wrong thinking amounts to barbarism.
There is no physical limitation to salvation. It is granted within, and in a moment. The soul carries no Karma, only the coverings. Teach the soul to get undressed and we are all the same.
But in RSSB the culture layers which are karmic also, are so heavy that the light of spirit is wrapped in very dark prejudices.
The intelligent power of creation has no limits, and no desire for separation, but a natural attraction to unity.
Any human-created prejudices that make initiation into shabd some scarce and exclusive event is wrong. Not just morally wrong, but wrong because it doesn’t work that way. Karma doesn’t work that way. And Shabd is universal.
When you cannot accept the infirm, the poor, the children, the disabled, you are turning your back on God. And do of course, that shuts the door to the highest regions.

@All & Sonia
Let’s not forget (if U can) (it’s 100% logical) that each of you
are GOD, Purusha & Prakiti in a state of Amnesia
This amnesia evaporates by meditation using BBJ s package
which produces 💋LOVE 💋 SOUND 💋 c.q. vice versa
Some of us heard a little bit since birth, played some with it
but need th manual
In this actual Iron planet; HE establish the way out!
of which many zillion Aliens are flabbergasted and they are trying to
construct, genetically invent copying our Chakra system
since Billions of years
Let’s use our 2 highest Chakras.
All seven can be aroused temporally and generate extase
but the Highest produces Eternal Sound Joy forever –
It’s really worth
We can then BE this Sound
put energy in it
and like with fusion make a giant output
I m so curious which other ways of orgasme Purusha (U) invented
in His (OUR) Universes and beyond
I guess that s what Seth Shiv Dayal named Alakh, Agam, Anami
RadhaSoami (together 9 vertical time_space_cpnsciousness_environments)
777
ps
Gurinder got the package and there seem to be 2 other SatGurus
one in Siberia …. not so easy to approach

“Meanwhile, you’re gloating and clapping Trump on the back. In essence you’re saying that because criminals take advantage of protests and Swedes can’t dig a hole without unearthing sacred Viking rust, red-blooded Americans have no choice but to kill unarmed black men like George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, etc, etc.”
I’m sorry, I really just can’t even argue against these strawmen that you build and break down. I hate Trump you blithering moron. And wtf does a now global revolution have to do with a single instance of a black person being killed by a cop?
You’re literally a stupid person, and you’re not living in reality.
Did you see the post of the Somalis asking for the release of Mohammed Noor, the cop who shot the white woman? It’s a race war, genius. I hope they send you and Spence to hell first. You’re the most satanic and dishonest aka deserving people.

@Spence
many times here I stated how wrong the kaste system is
and that freat souls from Very High Regions
desire to tzke all their surplus karma< even from 10 years just in one life only Big chance you see one of them in the "unlucky" group THEY also need initiation to use the human Crown Chakra I wondered a long time how a SatGuru makes the selection Now I know Intuition and serendipities We have that too - we select friends and partners HE has it much stronger, way deeper 777 If God would 'order' to take all of humanity , it will happen not yet seemingly We are All GOD 💋 . . S&HE can do what S&HE wants (MauJ) , Not what we want When U become HIM, you will agree with HIM Maybe even U can apply an upgrade . . . Maybe THAT s how it works

There are many people who are both illiterate and innumerate and moreover suffering from the crippling arrogance described by the Dunning Kruger Effect. You can place infinite graphs and tables of data before them, but they’ll never use them, favoring instead to accept truth or untruth on the basis of what view is more socially acceptable, all the while snarkily attributing their views to “education.”
Memes work to persuade people, because like all dialectic, only memes that are rooted in truth are accepted, but the social media giants banned literally tens of thousands of meme creators who disrupted their agenda, so you’re stuck with whatever the censors give you. May the execs of all US tech companies burn in hell eternally.
https://twitter.com/JannesDeventer/status/1267842831420469248

Dear Delicious and mistaken Seekers thinking they are God. I posted my opinion about such an insult to God here a couple of years ago, but it needs to be considered here again. I never thought I’d ever agree with Rat on RSS about any thing, but Rat also recognizes the fallacy of the Advaita Cult.
.
Advaita Vedanta Oneness teachings mock and challenge GOD.
Here is my take on Advaita Vedanta Oneness teachings. Advaita Vedanta Teachers who follow Ramana, Niz, etc., that presently created a host of Neo-Advaita Oneness teachings of “ I AM THAT” , who have decided that they were , and are, GOD. Of course, no one has ever been able to know exactly WHO, or WHAT God is, other than ultimately the beginninig and ending of Awareness or Consciousness. God has been described as the Ocean, Fire, Light, by Mystics , who claim to be One and the Same. I have never subscribed to such an egotistic belief system, because,………
“i” am NOT God! I never was, am not now, and never will be!
“i” am not a drop of the Ocean, WHO IS God. “i” am a creation of God, The Ocean, that unlike God, Who had no beginning, Alpha, nor will have no end, Omega, HAS had a beginning, when God, the Ocean , created “me”, the Soul that now temporarily manifests as the identity of Jim Sutherland.
That created Soul, had a beginning, but it has no end. It is now Eternal since creation, but has, and will continue to manifest through unending multitudes of impermanent, changing, Vehicles of Consciousness , using Containers, manifesting in The Wheel of 84, or The Hindu Charausi, i.e. 8,400,000 possible physical Species in the Universe.
The Created Soul that has manifested and lived in The Wheel of 84 since being created by God, from Amoebas to the present Container Temple of Jim Sutherland, and will continue to manifest in future unknown Containers, for Eternity, is unknown by “me”, the soul , and is only known by The Creator, Who is Christ, Who is also known by other Names and Identities, such as Anami Purush,
Radhasoami, God, The Holy Spirit, Source, Universe, etc, with a List that is unending, depending on individual imagination.
“i”, the Soul presently manifesting as Jim, will NEVER completely merge with God, or become a completely dissolved drop merging back to the Ocean, as Vedanta Advaitist teachers mistakingly teach, because “i” was never the Ocean, or God. “i” was only an individual creation by God, that became a drop in the Mind of God, as Kal was also created by God, to become Universal Mind, or the Hindu Brahm, the Agent of ALL minds, including not only mine, but every mind in The Wheel of 84, Charausi! Kal is the Prison Warden that has been created by GOD to incarcerate all souls created that have been Projected to the Matrix of TIME.
Any Drop that completely merges in to the Ocean, is annihilated, as far as individual Duality is concerned, and commits Spiritual suicide by claiming to be God in human form!
No doubt, God is in all of us, as Christ, and We are in Him, but will always remain in Duality for Eternity as created Individual souls have lived in Charausi , progressing to present, with out ever being sentenced to Annihilation by God , as drops merging completely back to the Ocean.
God has a Chain of Command He uses to draw his created souls back to the Cradle of Creation, where they may enjoy His Ocean of Glory, with out annihilating their Duality.
Spiritual Seekers are those created souls who have tired of experiencing the adventures in the Play of Consciousness, and are becoming detached from the impermanent enticements of the Sensory pleasures of the material world of Duality.
But, escaping the world of Duality, permanently, with out being annihilated, as taught by Vedanta Advaitists, is impossible, because according to the Bible, only God Alone knows all the secrets, and the Prophets, Masters, Avatars, only know the secrets God reveals to each of them, in Duality, as individuals.
If this is not so, there would be no secrets, and we would all know each other’s thoughts and desires, actions, histories, since bring created, and we don’t, NONE of us, including Masters, Teachers, Avatars, Saviors or Mediums.
I consider “my” self, as the present culmination of all of the same Soul that has lived numerous past lives in Charausi since being created by God , a projection of my Higher Soul Self, that is now a Multidimensional Consciousness, with the present identity of Jim Sutherland, now in Duality, as having started in Duality at the time “i” was created by Christ, The WORD made flesh of John 1:1, i.e. God.
“I” will Eternally remain in Duality, as long as Consciousness of awareness is retained, but have been given the Keys of Knowledge , which is the Technique of The Science of The Soul, which may be used to escape the horrors and suffering of Charausi , when ever “i” choose to use the Prescription administered by Master to temporarily rest in the Glory of Bliss of Samadhi in Anami.
Drops never completely merge in to the Ocean with out becoming annihilated.
But, Drops may sail on The Ocean , enjoying the Sights, Sounds, Lights, Bliss, by taking refuge on various Cruise ships, which are Masters of various Lineages , or Cruise lines.
The Masters are the Cruise Ships escorting Spiritual Seekers on Adventures enjoyed and experienced ON, the Ocean, but not IN the Ocean, unless those souls manifesting in human forms desire to become souls in Aquatic Sea living forms.
Individual Saints, or Spiritual Seekers, on individual Paths of Duality, seek God by sailing the God Ocean only by sailing on the Surface , in various mixtures of Material/Spiritual Life Support Vehicles such ad Kayaks, Canoes, Rafts, Yachts, etc.
But Masters, are the Cruise Ships, that escort and ferry Seeker Souls through the Multidimensional Planes of Consciousness on the Ocean of Christ.
I consider my self, the soul that is acting as Jim, to be a Booking Agent, for all Spiritual Masters escorting and ferrying Spiritual Seekers to experience the adventures on the Ocean of Christ, i.e. The Hope of GLORY!
My Booking Fees are FREE, as my payment and rewards from Christ are held in Trust for me, in The Book of Life, Archived in the Highest Pinocle of Causal Mind, where the Avatars of Christ all reside together and Eternally remain to carry out the Plans of God.
Kal, i.e. Satan, is God’s created Agent of Time, in Duality, who is the Annihilatior of all souls who seek to venture in to the Ocean , as drops are obviously, timeless, individual creations that sail and ride the Ocean of Christ . Kal’s Agents are human Battle Ships, Submarines, loaded with poisonous demolition propaganda, used to annihilate Souls in Duality , that have ventured from Heaven/ Paradis/Sach Khand to enjoy the Play of Consciousness with out loosing Awareness or Individuality.
Kal’s Agents are Vedanta Adventist Oneness Preachers.
Booking Agents for Christ know who they are, and recognize them right away, so are enemies of Kal.
Caveat Emptor! ( let the Seeker Beware )
Jim Sutherland

In case you couldn’t tell, I was just kidding about all the riots and race attacks happening. It’s all just CGI man, just like the moon landing.
America is fine, and the only thing really happening are legitimate peaceful protests against something that totally isn’t a irrational response to a statistical anomaly and prodding by a foreign owned media. Actually there’s an epidemic of violence by evil white people, as all you who live in suburban America already know.Dangerous, dangerous violence all over white suburbia. Everyone is scared to travel there.
I am evil, and was born with the original sin of racism in my brain. As beautifully explained by a holy POC on CNN, I have a virus, and so do you all, assuming any of you are white. Though, I wouldn’t admit to being white if I were you, because it’s an ugly sin. Even if any of the thousands of attacks against white people every year were real, it’s all justified and being done for the cleansing of our world. The real Tikun Olam will be when we’re all dead.
Thank God for science and progress.

Hi 777
You and I and the True Saints, and the disabled are all here together at the same time. That is the serendipity.
God did his job.
Anything we do here to create a caste system of saved / not saved, initiated/not initiated when the whole path is in reach of all, built in, is merely a reflection of the prejudices of our culture and how that poison has filtered into our thinking.
Religion claims a path to the very source of life, and then requires pagan idolatry and formal ceremonies of initiation.
But we are all one already and have only to realize it. Anyone interested gets any help they need from True Saints not stage actors.
People try to justify injustice and exclusion of our weakest brothers and sisters. This opposes God. We are here to help each other. Just look around. Purpose for you is written on the face of the hungry homeless you see as you pass by. God brought you together. Listen to that intuition!
We are not actually here for salvation! God takes care of that automatically. Those who want it get it. He plants the seed. He gives them instructions. Only He/She/It can do that.
What we can do is help each other, not invent excuses to exclude one another.
That’s actually our job. That’s why we’re here together. That’s the serendipity.
People deny that. They create some sort of exclusionary rules of who deserves help and who doesn’t to justify a selfish life.
Intuition is there and automatically draws us to help those in need. We are all in one family. That helps us connect with each other and with the spirit.
To deny help also shuts the door to salvation. To exclude anyone from salvation is actually turning away from the same door ourselves.
But that’s OK because RSSB is a photocopy, not the real path. And those turned away are actually better than those accepted because the rejected turn within and find God directly.
There is no real seva in an organization that excludes our most vulnerable from salvation. It is an abomination to God to have to watch human beings make excuses for excluding each other when it is unnecessary. Of all the commodities that is in infinite supply, and within all of us, that is Spirit.
So when a stage actor perpetuates cultural bogotry against the most vulnerable and all their followers make excuses and invent lies to defend such ignorance and cruelty, then your owm intuition can show you how filthy and corrupt that is.
To make excuses for excluding people is like making excuses for denying clean drinking water to a poor village when your purification plant runs a huge surplus all the time, fast and night.
Cruelty is born in such meager thinking.
It may be as you day and the stage actor trusts their limited intuition to decide who gets in and who doesn’t. But that reflects their limited progress. Good wants everyone in without question. The True Saint loves everyone as equal to themselves, even greater than themselves. They see the Lord in others so naturally there is no exclusion.
Rather than make claims that the RSSB path, the path of Sant Mat is a boon to civilization, it really isn’t.
It’s there for folks who haven’t yet realized, down to their toes, that we all have the same loving Father and are all brothers and sisters. The caste system is what we have created ourselves. Elimnating that caste system thinking in our heart is the first real step to salvation. Without taking that step the garage is empty.
And when you take that step, then you open the doors wide.

@JIM
Meditation Stop thoughts, ….
Hear this WORD made flesh of John 1:1, i.e. God.
Be Charan
Be this Song
So far Sant Mat
Beyond Brahma/Yaweh who also will need a Genuine Guide
to re-emerge in the Creator
777

Black Lives Matter protests in New Zealand and in Australia: 3 June, 6 June and 13 June. “Peaceful” protests of course, heh, lets see how that goes. There must be something wrong with this “God” people keep on talking about, why create all these different tribes on this planet, seems somewhat like a trouble maker. I’m wondering if the Covid virus has triggered something in people’s brains all of a sudden. Strange behaviour. People rioting and some killed for the sake of peace! What the!

Spence Tepper continually promoting genocide in disguise. Cool stuff. Big brains at work.
Jen asks, “why create all these different tribes on this planet”
Tribalism is a reality. Instead of being mad at reality, how about we try to do less damage? Let’s dump the disgusting ___s in this world who shove violence wrapped in happy fun tie dye down our throats. Go back to the ethos of Byzantium and strip them of their ability to agitate and destroy order and goodness.
We need to make peace with what is, and stop trying to make fantasies come to life.

What not to say to someone battling mental illness:
https://pin.it/43MIqBK

Toxic positivity
https://pin.it/4kVFQVj
https://pin.it/12IjOex
https://pin.it/12IjOex
Don’t be a victim and please don’t act like a high on crack-life-Tony-Robbins-self-help guru.
Get real.
Please.

Ya know, I’ve achieved a lot in my life. I’ve had incredible opportunities and a great number of people have put tremendous faith in me. In theory, I should have had it all—with intelligence, talent, understanding and compassion. But all of that doesn’t amount to a hill of beans when your battling years of debilitating depression and anxiety. And I’m certainly not looking for sympathy. I’m just saying, it doesn’t matter how much you have when you are coping with “mental illness” day in and day out. People look at you and think you have everything and assume you should be happy. But that’s just not how it works. You’re better off without all those traits and advantages if you can live a life free of depression and extreme anxiety.
I wish people were more educated about these things. You simply cannot judge a person just by looking at them. I’m don’t care how blessed you are with the right looks and social standing. It’s all meaninglessness
If you are happy and stable and content, count yourself among the most blessed.
The rest of us aspire to that and hopefully will achieve what you have.
What you judge as weakness in others is often a weakness you’re afraid of having yourself.
I believe anything is possible. I truly believe circumstances can change with the right attitude. And sometimes the right attitude is just acceptance.
Acceptance is hard for those with a strong ego but it’s not impossible. I’m starting to believe that only through acceptance can one truly be happy. And not in an “I’m a defeated victim” sort of way. Just in an it’s OK for things not to meet my expectations or for things not to be perfect. It doesn’t mean I can’t be happy. I don’t have to control everything. Maybe that’s the key to happiness—letting go of the need to always be in control.

It’s amazing, you have “all this going for you” and yet sometimes you spend 3 weeks in bed just staring at the wall unable to get up and do anything. It’s an IMPOSSIBLE thing to explain to anyone who hasn’t been through the same dense heavy fog. But it’s real and I can assure you that NO ONE would choose that. No one wants THAT sort of attention. It’s embarrassing and miserable, so you make up excuses. But depression is real and invisible and so horribly misunderstood. The religious or spiritual fanatics see it as a spiritual problem. Maybe it is, but I doubt it’s any more of a spiritual problem than having cancer. It’s just an illness plain and simple. Just as miserable as cancer but unfortunately it comes with a TREMENDOUS amount of judgement.
One day I’d like one of the “Masters” to say they suffered extreme depression or anxiety and that it’s not something to be judged. It’s just simply an illness. There’s medical help and people should be a lot less judgemental.
Until that day comes (in 2050 or so) we’ll just treat it the best we can. But I can assure you it’s been around since the beginning of time. The problem is Masters view it as a Spiritual Problem. That creates all sorts of judgement and lack of proper treatment. Is a medical problem. That’s all it is. Plain an simple.
Don’t tell me what you think about people with Mental Illness unless you’re willing to experience what they’re going through.

I like Lady Gaga because she admits to having a complete psychotic break and having to be on antipsychotics every day. I’m not on antipsychotics and I don’t think I’ve ever had a “psychotic break”. But I am able to empathize with her and know that her pain is real. I don’t judge her and think, “yeah, but you’ve got way more going for you than the average person”. I know that it must be hell for her. WHO WOULD CHOOSE TO GO THROUGH THAT?? You may say it’s attention seeking but you would be soooooo wrong. There are a lot more fun ways to get attention.
OK. I’m done with my rant. I expect very few to “get it”—to get what I’m saying.
I’m just saying, if you’ve never experienced anything like it then please at least be grateful and don’t judge. Or you could donate to the ‘Born this Way’ foundation.

And of course there are a gazillion movie stars and singers with bipolar. Seems to plague the extremely creatives. Just do a google search. It’s exhaustive.
Maybe they’re all past life higher realm ppl. Who knows. It’s weird.
They seem to have an inexplicable creative charisma that’s unnatural.

https://youtu.be/VoaG9qHHFmM
Amen
Sita

“I hate Trump you blithering moron.”
Posted by: Jesse (The Eternal Anami Hater) | June 02, 2020 at 04:15 PM
“Anti Trump morons, this is what you chose.”
Posted by: Jesse | May 31, 2020 at 09:42 PM
Jesse,
So you hate Trump, and I’m a moron for not recognizing it, but anti-Trumpers are morons too.
Help me out here. “Hate” and “Anti” are kind of the same, unless you can separate the person from his policies. You could, I suppose. Sociopaths, notoriously, are charismatic but toxic to other humans, lying, manipulating and victimizing. Alternatively, you could experience envy, loving what they do but hating that they’re in the position instead of you.
Either way emotions conflict. I get a warm feeling from Trump’s voice and smile, for example, but his words and methods completely annihilate it. I think he’s a sociopath, and I automatically distrust him. By extension, I automatically distrust anyone in league with him. Not hate, just distrust and an impulse to scrutinize.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/5-types-people-who-can-ruin-your-life/201803/how-spot-sociopath-in-3-steps

This is where Malvinder and Shivinder and Sunil and Sanjay and whoever else are staying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxFme2F-690
Seriously, WTF 😂😂😂
Only India.

“So you hate Trump, and I’m a moron for not recognizing it, but anti-Trumpers are morons too.
Help me out here. ”
You would need help. Listen, you can find a politician undesirable and not want to work towards his destruction thus ensuring the chaos and death that you see happening all around you today. In fact, unless you’re being slaughtered or put into camps, real ones like were in USSR, then you probably should just wait it out.
-Accepting Trump’s annoyingness and stupidity and just letting 4 years pass with no new foreign wars, an economic boom and relative domestic peace would have been wise.
-Being anti Trump and trying to destroy him is aggressively stupid, and self destructive as anyone with two eyes can see right now. There are dozens of cities burning, and they’re pretending like it has to do with a cop killing. L O L
“unless you can separate the person from his policies.”
If you can’t do that you’re utterly incapable of positively contributing to a democracy, which is now pretty obviously proving itself to be the worst system of governance in all of human history anyway.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/5-types-people-who-can-ruin-your-life/201803/how-spot-sociopath-in-3-steps
Posted by: anami | June 03, 2020 at 09:01 AM
Thanks for sharing. Sometimes I have a really bad outburst usually directed at someone I’ve had issues with for a really long time. It scares me though. I think, OMG, where did that come from? How did I do something like that? 😬 🧟‍♀️ Although I know I’m wrong when I lose my temper, I’ve also learned that if it seems to come out of nowhere then it’s not really “nowhere”. It usually means I have a lot of unprocessed, very serious issues with that person that need to be resolved. Sometimes you can’t resolve things, though.
I liked the article.

Well, speaking of sociopaths, psychopaths and some serious brotherly mudslinging—Shiv is certainly calling the kettle black. Jeez
This seems like updated old news because I don’t remember the whole Bhasmasur thing. It actually makes you sound crazy to call someone else that.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/travel/destinations/soon-you-can-spend-a-day-in-tihar-jail-as-a-tourist-and-experience-jail-life/as68230496.cms

Oops, Brian, I included the wrong link in that last comment. It should be this one:
https://m.economictimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/healthcare/singh-brothers-trade-barbs-at-nclt/articleshow/71798822.cms

The words “peaceful protest” used to describe cities burning to the ground. This is the insane world we live in.
https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1268418562647035906

https://theconversation.com/what-do-we-mean-by-meaning-science-can-help-with-that-113269

“Tribalism is a reality.”
You should spend more time in Africa. Maybe visit South Africa. You’d probably really like it. The whole country is falling apart but they’re sticking to their tribal ways.

For me this is easy , having seen that i was a murderer a few lifes ago
which I told here long ago
777
Posted by: ❌❌ about the devil, asking 4initiation ❌❌ | June 02, 2020 at 11:00 AM
OMG, me too! Maybe you killed me and then I killed you the following life. 🤪

ps
Gurinder got the package and there seem to be 2 other SatGurus
one in Siberia …. not so easy to approach
Posted by: 💋 Delicious 💋 777 💋 System 💋 Gorgeous 💋 | June 02, 2020 at 02:50 PM
I think you are referencing one of your previous comments where I asked if there were other PLMs. And your comment at that time was truly the funniest comment you’ve ever posted. It was pure sarcasm. Not used to you being sarcastic.

@Georgy
Yes, I’m an asshole AND I’m going to hell. Somewhere in that sentence was an apology for going way, way, way off the deep end bat shit crazy. I’m only apologizing because I went to such an extreme. I’m not saying I want you back commenting (cause you totally trigger me). Just saying I know the difference between right and wrong.
Please read this and do not reply.
Namaste

Democracy works beautifully with an active citizenry.
Wealthy people can and do pay for advertising, lobbyists and politicians, and hire thugs, as a natural result of using their wealth to further their interests. This is human nature and will never change nor be eradicated.
Democracy provides a counterbalance to this through the vote and free speech. It understands the impact of communication, information, and the necessity of cooperation.
A wealthy person can pay for advertising.
A poor person can voice their complaint and refuse to cooperate, where there is the vote and free speech, and the right to peaceful protest.
Nothing is perfect. But if you look for destruction, you will find it everywhere.
People complain about what they don’t like… They don’t like destruction. But those same people perpetuated policies that have perpetuated violence, enslavement and murder.
Looters are not protestors. They are the disenfranchised taking advantage of the situation. Just like Trump not paying his workers or sexually attacking them. Taking advantage of his situation to take what is not his.
To reduce violence of all kinds we need ongoing peaceful protest, non-violent protest, civil disobedience, passive resistance and the vibrant user of the vote. That’s the cost of liberty. Five key requirements to protect a Democracy. It’s just the cost of liberty from oppression. And a democracy allows the exercise of these five functions.

@777
“Compare this with :
Going in before your time in this pinda astral world°° which
would make in a second a jeeva completely INSANE
I mean SO INSANE that even an observer loses his mental balance
and can become crazy as well
°° or see THIS Planet
Imaging the worst misdades the top cruelty like from Pol Pot, Mao, Nero or
from thegenocide against the armenians with tens of miles
of women, children & men , cruxified along the road free for passengers to misuse
as according to their pervers taste
and so much much much more”
********
Yep. Did that too. Ergo…
Anyway, I just discovered that acceptance is letting go. Letting go. You would think resistance is letting go but it’s not. Acceptance is actually the release.
Weird.

I realize no one is interested in this but I’m going to comment about it anyway.
Who are the crackpot attorneys who convinced the Singhs to keep fighting this??? Now they owe 1 crore more than they did 4 years ago. There’s no way they can pay that back. Well… not unless a lot of their friends feel really generous.
Even I have enough sense to know there’s no way you’re not going to win against Daiichi Sankyo. Seriously.
This sucks.
https://business.medicaldialogues.in/delhi-high-court-upholds-daiichis-rs-3500-crore-arbitral-award-singh-brothers
“In 2016, the Singapore arbitration tribunal had directed Singh brothers to pay Rs 2,562 crore in damages giving the verdict in favour of Daiichi which has now valued at Rs 3,500 crore after including interest and legal fees.

Maybe you can prove effectiveness of the following forms of governance simply by listing examples of countries and tally up the winner. Reality vs. ideology. Human nature never fits neatly into any packaged ideal.
Tribalism—
Communism—
Socialism—
Capitalism—

Brian, don’t wait 30 years to leave the science cult. Especially considering that it seems to have been taken over by Indian scam artists selling crypto currency.
It’s funny how we allow people from literally the most corrupt place on earth, and where doctors are known to be some of the most shady frauds on earth, to just walk right into our healthcare system. And even when they have cases of fraud and malpractice in their past they’re still allowed to have massive amounts of influence on our society when they should instead be jailed or deported.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/covid-19-surgisphere-who-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine

The Threat of Tribalism
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/10/the-threat-of-tribalism/568342/

Taming the Tiger Within
—Thich Nhat Hanh
The Cow in the Parking Lot: A Zen Approach to Overcoming Anger
—Leonard Scheff

Yep well you pretty lucky my retaliation was banned cos you woulda been besides yourself – I don’t like being attacked for no reason.
Anyway it takes something to apologize, but I wonder how genuine it is until the next outburst. You don’t have to apologize to me, even though it is good you still recognize right from wrong.
I’ll be quite honest with you, the difference between me and you is that I don’t really give a good gdam what you think about me. If you want pretend you are all tough that is fine, I don’t respect that. I prefer genuineness and consistency.
It’s very simple stop trying to get a rise out of me and stop taking your issues out on me or a guru you don’t know from an apple.
Seriously I do wonder if you actually are your own worst enemy and if you can’t even recognize the ppl who might have your best interests at heart.
But the bottomline is this if you don’t want to engage with headstrong personalities like me or GSD, or our comments trigger you, then don’t even listen. Simply don’t interact with us, just ignore and do your own thing.
what I’m definitely not going to do is be brow-battered into submission because I disagree with you.

As for looters and violent protests, not everyone responds in the genteel manner that some might want by turning the other cheek.
The actions of the police were horrific and caused huge anger in me. I can quite easily see why their has been violent protests. Hell I wanted to do to that cop what he did to that poor guy – he’s gonna almost certainly be manhandled by the bro’s in prison – ain’t that karma – life is fair? Eye for an eye?
Did you see the video of that tennis player , James, another fkn dunce officer busts him to the ground outside the Hyatt. The guy is like one of the top tennis players in the world – I would take that entire fkn police force to the cleaners.
Many of those police, not all, but many are a certain kind of individual which are attracted to law enforcement, and they abuse their powers, they are typical the v last people who should ever be police. There needs to be better psycho screening of these cops and stronger legal powers before they can even touch someone.
These police officers are given way too much respect and power. They should be locked up and the key thrown away if they even search, let alone man-handle or kill someone.

“A 2005 study in the Journal of Behavioral Medicine comparing secular and spiritual forms of meditation found spiritual meditation to be more calming. In secular meditation, you focus on something such as your breath or a nonspiritual word. In spiritual meditation, you focus on a spiritual word or text. Participants were divided into groups, with some being taught how to meditate using words of self-affirmation (“I am love”) and others taught how to meditate with words that described a higher power (“God is love”). They then meditated for 20 minutes a day for four weeks.
“Researchers found that the group that practiced spiritual meditation showed greater decreases in anxiety and stress and more positive mood. They also tolerated pain almost twice as long when asked to put their hand in an ice water bath.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-science-of-prayer-11589720400?mod=e2fb&fbclid=IwAR3rviVp3SNaT0plx5J1C8z2shSQavBpfIP-CvhP37qIFlaHYmJAggE3qWw

@Spence
“Researchers found that the group that practiced spiritual meditation showed greater decreases in anxiety and stress and more positive mood. They also tolerated pain almost twice as long when asked to put their hand in an ice water bath.”
Maybe the idea that someone else is consciously looking out for you creates a stronger feeling of calm. 🤷‍♀️
@Georgy
No, I’m genuine. I’m certainly not trying to brow beat you into submission. Submission is so 🥴 yuck. Control is not my thing. That’s one good trait of mine—I’m not a control freak at all and I expect other people to figure things out and figure life out for themselves. That’s one area (maybe the only) where I’m super chill. I don’t want to live anyone’s life for them or tell them what to do or how to behave. I don’t even “control” my pets. But they’re REALLY good. They’re just really loving. Pets respond to love much stronger than commands.
I’ve identified my biggest weakness is perceiving a slight criticism as a major threat and then overacting. I recognize that. Anyway, as they say, “awareness is therapy”.
I think if a certain aspect of our energies weren’t so similar on a certain level then there probably wouldn’t be that sort of reaction. Don’t worry, I’m not gonna insult you by telling you you’re a little like me—I’m just saying a small aspect of your energy is similar to mine (headstrong).

Just an example of how I’m not a control freak and I certainly don’t want anyone “under my submission” (just typing that is creepy), my husband and I have never fought over money. And we’ve been together for 20 years through rich and poor, poor and rich. (Not really rich just comfortable.)
I never try to tell my friends or family what they should believe or anything they should like related to material stuff whatsoever. And I couldn’t care less if one of them decides to be a doctor or a truck driver. Whatever makes you happy.
OK, I can see now that it might appear like I’m getting defensive about not being a control freak. So, I’ll stop. 🤐

@Spence
I don’t have a subscription to the WSJ so can’t view the article. I’m curious to read it.

‘Breakfast at Tiffany’s’
You’ll say we’ve got nothing in common
No common ground to start from
And we’re falling apart
You say the world has come between us
Our lives have come between us
Still I know you just don’t care
And I said, “What about Breakfast at Tiffany’s?”
She said, “I think I remember the film
And as I recall, I think we both kinda liked it”
And I said, “Well, that’s the one thing we’ve got”
I see you, the only one who knew me
But now your eyes see through me
I guess I was wrong
So what now? It’s plain to see we’re over
And I hate when things are over
When so much is left undone
And I said, “What about Breakfast at Tiffany’s?”
She said, “I think I remember the film
And as I recall, I think we both kinda liked it”
And I said, “Well, that’s the one thing we’ve got”
You say that we’ve got nothing in common
No common ground to start from
And we’re falling apart
You say the world has come between us
Our lives have come between us
Still I know you just don’t care
And I said, “What about Breakfast at Tiffany’s?”
She said, “I think I remember the film
And as I recall, I think we both kinda liked it”
And I said, “Well, that’s the one thing we’ve got”
Ooh, and I said, “What about Breakfast at Tiffany’s?”
She said, “I think I remember the film
And as I recall, I think we both kinda liked it”
And I said, “Well, that’s the one thing we’ve got”
And I said, “What about Breakfast at Tiffany’s?”
She said, “I think I remember the film
And as I recall, I think we both kinda liked it”
And I said, “Well, that’s the one thing we’ve got”

@Georgy
“There are other courses you might wanna take instead, i.e. the man-hater, strict-papa or bro-asshole course. But I’m no expert.”
OK, first of all I’m not a man hater. My dad wasn’t strict (not with me) and my younger brother and I have only had a couple of arguments in my entire life. My older brother is missing one quarter of his brain (I mentioned this in another post). It’s not his fault but it causes him to act like a meth addict. He’s gotten better but still. I really care about him and he’s the only person I can get really mad at while feeling sorry for at the same time.
All of my friends are men except for one. It’s been that way most of my life. Some of them are gay but that’s beside the point.
How you deal with emotions is programmed into you at an early age. When one gets older and realizes that they’re not handling their emotions very well then they should try and work on that. Which is what I’m doing now instead of relying solely on medicines (or self medicating—which only makes it worse).
You told me that you are the same age as me, a fellow American and not even initiated. And you’re a Sagittarius too. I have no idea what you do for work or what your life is like but I’m starting to get the impression that you surround yourself with a close group of friends who agree with pretty much everything you say.
You really have an issue with authority. And don’t start freaking out over that statement. I’m not saying that in a mean way. I’m just saying, there are only a few people you take advice from (that’s what you told me) which indicates you’re used to being the one who’s usually in control.
I’m not a controlling person and I don’t like being controlled. I don’t think you like being controlled either. I give people a lot of freedom and expect the same. So please stop assuming the worst of me.
I can’t tell where on the emotional range you feel comfortable because you hate sweet people, you can’t stand whiny people, you get really pissed at aggressive people and you think people critical of your beliefs are morons.
That just leaves me the narrow band of “neutral” to interact with you.
I’m not a robot.

G-
I’m not sure if you can handle “nice” either but I’ll give it a try.

Something shifted this week. It was like a huge weight had been lifted. Was there some sort of major cosmic energy shift on Wednesday? Anyone into astrology?

It’s my niece’s 13th birthday today, so I’ll take a break from commenting so much (I’m just very loyal—one blog only 🙃).
However, I’m gonna throw this out there—I see a lot of similarities between Jesse and Georgy even though their beliefs about RS are totally opposite.
What I can’t wrap my head around is how either of them are Gen X Americans. I guess they’re anomalies.
In absolutely no way am I trying to offend. That shouldn’t be offensive. It’s just an observation.

Georgy, did you watch GSD’s 001 video where he talks about men and women and how he was concerned women might be getting to be domineering? I don’t believe that’s the case in general. I think it’s just that our generation doesn’t draw the line between the sexes the same way his generation and culture did/does.
The younger generations today (younger than us) don’t have the same issues with gender equality. They’re problem is they just can’t seem to decide which gender they are half the time. A lot of them get offended that they have to mark male or female. They want to be “Mx.”
Maybe I live in a bubble, but no one I know personally treats women differently to men. They just treat people differently based on personality.
My husband often verbally repeats a lot of South African programming about gender differences (and not in a demeaning way—in an “old world” kind of way 😂) but he doesn’t really believe it. He actually treats everyone the same. He’s American now.
My only issue with him has been to try to get him to stop saying those things (and what others might perceive as racist, which he’s not) out loud in polite company. 😆

I mean if i know these kind of things i will be curious to the highest amount and will try to search how to go there.
Posted by: Rupinder Singh | June 08, 2020 at 06:06 AM
I’ve never stopped searching. My whole life I’ve been searching for answers even as an initiate I was intensely trying to make sense of the world around me.
Actually, you’re question about the scriptures and Kabir and Bulleh Shah got me reading more about the different regions. I came across something—it’s hard to put into words—but it made me realize that I spread all of my attention out into the world around me trying to understand other people. That may sound benevolent to a certain degree but it’s not. I’ve spread my energy/mind so thin that I’m not helpful to other people or myself.
That’s all I can say. It’s very difficult to put into words. It was an “aha!” moment. It was a moment of self-realization more than anything else. I’ll probably take a break and focus on the meaning of this different perspective and where I should be instead of everything around me.
I have a lot to figure out. 🙂
Thanks 🙏

Regardless of whether you like GSD or not, this is impressive. What other group in the world is helping people to this degree who are struggling because of COVID-19?
https://youtu.be/1SI-Ml1iTd8

Here is a totally non-religious, totally rational, completely scientific ritual you all can do to prove how not racist you are before you get tossed like sacks of potatoes into a gulag by the same people you’re trying to appease-
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1270041593064706048

Read this before you believe in the religious ideas of racial injustice being promoted on t.v. that is nothing more than highly publicized anecdotes intentionally presented to stir up emotion instead of arrive at truth.
Read the arguments, read the links to the studies, read the rest of the website. Read it all. Leave all cults.
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2017/01/07/race-and-crime-the-causes-of-black-crime-rates/

Anxiety, Depression, and many mood and personality disorders are typically lumped into the category of Mental Illness in our modern society. Very sadly with the first line of treatment being a automatic DSMV diagnosis and medication.
This is very sad because we’re not looking at the whole person anymore. We’re just bottling up our emotions and drugging ourselves, essentially making us weaker and sicker on every level of our being.
Here’s another way of looking at the different energies that make up our current selves:
Spirit — Spirituality
Causal — Mental
Astral — Emotional
Body — Physical
We’ve failed to make the distinctions between emotional and physical, emotional and mental, emotional and spiritual. How did this happen? It’s put us in a world where medicine has become our first go to for what are actualmy emotional problems that can be addressed far more effectively through an understanding that emotions are not the mind nor are they the physical. But they do affect the mind, body and spirit.
Anyway, I’m an avid reader. I read a lot and often when I’m not able to pick up a book because of an activity that requires physical attention like cleaning or driving I’ll listen to books on audible.
Here are 4 really amazing books on emotions that offer clearer insight into the nature of emotions, how to manage, accept, work through and channel them effectively:
1. ‘It’s Not Always Depression; Working the Change Triangle to Listen to the Body, Discover Core Emotions, and Connection to your Authentic Self’
—by Hilary Jacobs Hendel, LCSV
2. ‘Emotional Freedom’
—by Judith Orloff, M.D.
3. ‘The Emotional Life of Your Brain’
—by Richard J. Davidson
4. ‘Beyond Reason; Using Emotions as You Negotiate’
—by Roger Fisher and Daniel Shapiro

Regardless of whether you like GSD or not, this is impressive. What other group in the world is helping people to this degree who are struggling because of COVID-19?
https://youtu.be/1SI-Ml1iTd8
Posted by: Sonia | June 08, 2020 at 11:49 AM
Pardon.
I can’t help to add my experience at a Satsang in Irvine, CA. When I inquired about Brian the writer of Life is Fair, to an older satsangi who was also initiated by the late Hazur Maharaj Ji Charan Singh.
https://scienceofthesoul.org/books-EN-184-0.html (Life is Fair, found at the Official RSSB – Online Book Store)
I had asked if the Secretary was aware of the claims of Church of the Churchless online. I also asked how could a satsangi who was on the Path for so long and who also contributed a great book, could now de disenchanted and an ex-er?
They person said they once knew Brian, and that Brain was perhaps more dedicated to the Path than any other satsangi he knew of.
So I wanted to add that what the guy said about Brain may also be true about all the ex-ers here.
Peace.

4. ‘Beyond Reason; Using Emotions as You Negotiate’
—by Roger Fisher and Daniel Shapiro
Posted by: 📚 Book Club 📚 | June 09, 2020 at 12:21 AM

‘Beyond Reason; Using Emotions as You Negotiate’
—by Roger Fisher and Daniel Shapiro

Yep papa G luvs gifts, but that’s exactly the wrong way to negotiate.
Forget mental health issues and your 3rd chakra. Go have some fun ffs.

But actually you raise potentially a v good book if that’s your thing. I don’t tend to buy American academic writing, but one of those Harvard nerds wrote getting to yes which is a bit of a masterpiece in its field.
I read about half of it and then just got bored. My reading years are over. I read everything in my 30s, it’s most all bullshit. Now I just like the articles in playboy. I’m a redneck at heart really without the racism or the american.

Now Book no 1 on the other hand should be an instant no-no. I mean have you ever heard such shite in all your life. “Working the yoni triangle and your authentic self. “
I mean come off it. Seriously that sort of crud should be banned outright. Sorry I can’t even keep an open mind when I read pretentious meaningless titles like that. It infuriates me just listening to that title / the rest of the book is just going to be mindless dribble about getting in contact with your inner you or something inane like that. Do these books actually help anyone?

One day I’m going to piece together key bits from all your comments and feed it to Interpol so they can track you down. I’m sure you’re wanted out there for some sort of international crime or disruption.
Maybe you’ll enjoy watching Queen of the South. It’s my favorite drama and they just released a new season on Netflix.

Oh G, you’ll like this…
https://youtu.be/lTpPcKQYaOI
This chic is your dream girl. Beautiful Latino with a soft heat, street smarts and ambition.
Enjoy

Latina (unless you’re into o’s)

Do these books actually help anyone?
Posted by: Georgy Porgy | June 09, 2020 at 03:48 PM
Well, ‘Beyond Reason’ was the only one I thought might appeal to you. They have been involved in world peace talks and peace settlements between countries like India and Pakistan and Israel, Iran. The Camp David Accords… it’s mostly about politics and business. But since you aspire to be the dictator of a small third world country I can understand why it wouldn’t appeal to you.
The others are def too in touch for you.
Do you wear some kinda military looking uniform with lots of gold and war medals and white gloves and a peaked cap with lots of gold??
Jesus God, why do I even try.

And these books are the opposite of new age hippie pseudo spiritual nonsense.
These are about (in your case, recognizing that you actually have emotions—intense emotions at that) reasoning your way through your emotions and trying to truly look at things objectively.
I’ve updated the “realms”:
Spiritual — spirit
Causal — reason
Astral — emotion
Physical — body
I’ll start subdividing the realms when I get around to it. I might even do away with some of the residing deities and asuras unless GSD has some use for them.
🙄🙄🙄

Wowzer!

I read about half of it and then just got bored. My reading years are over. I read everything in my 30s, it’s most all bullshit. Now I just like the articles in playboy. I’m a redneck at heart really without the racism or the american.
Posted by: Georgy Porgy | June 09, 2020 at 03:34 PM
You’re such a cliche.
They say after 30 something people have less of a desire to try something new. That didn’t happen to me till my 40’s but I’m definitely risk averse now. I used to be addicted to change which made for an exciting albeit somewhat “unstable” life. Now I’m in the content/apathy zone (it’s a fine line). That’s called wisdom I guess… getting set in our ways. It happens to everyone eventually.
But I recommend you try cracking a book every now and then. You could read Moody Bitches by Julie Holland.

Look it’s just my opinion. If they help you, go for it.
As for military, I’m about as far removed as you could get. Can’t stand it or anything it stands for. Mostly takes a certain type just like law enforcement. Wee fellas with something to prove. I’ve got no problem with genuine self-defense though.
Not sure you got much right so far. I’m also not initiated or American which i suspect you already know.
Let us just agree to disagree. Why can we not have differences?

In fact the only genuine thing I agree with is what you said about rssb above. I actually forwarded that video to someone I know, which is a first. I believe that is not only from the heart, but what you do believe. And it’s true. For such an ‘evil cult and guru’, they sure seem to do some v good things don’t they.

I was joking about the military uniform. Obviously. It was a reference to crazy dictators. Lol
Of course we can have differences. I don’t know why you think I have a problem with that. I have a very, very short list of ‘totally unacceptable’ (like 3 or 4 things). Otherwise I don’t care what people do or say or believe. I still don’t understand why you’re not initiated, though. I guess because it would mean you’d have to read actual books (at least 3).

Unexpected from the Midwest.
https://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/gurinder-singh-khalsa-of-indiana-to-receive-rosa-parks-trailblazer-award/article_9489f2ce-106b-11e9-8042-5b78e7a69bbc.html
Which reminds me, GSD’s appearance in the non-English Q & A’s is rather fierce. With the blue curtain behind him and his serious look I’m wondering if he’s got a sword with him too.

Bizarrely I’m the opposite, becoming less risk-adverse with age. And I like change, always have, provided it’s for the better. For example, I don’t think it’s a good change for the NCAA to appoint the KKKs grand wizard as it’s next ceo. Another example are these buzzwords like ‘change agents’, this is corporate speak for imbecile mediocrities trying to pretend they avant-guarde. Thing is you got a problem when someone pushing for change is an idiot, because it’s not well thought through and the end result might be a whole lot of disruption that only adds up to more unnecessary complexity and makes things worse.
As for The Dictator, great movie, Oscar material.

Which reminds me, GSD’s appearance in the non-English Q & A’s is rather fierce. With the blue curtain behind him and his serious look I’m wondering if he’s got a sword with him too.
Posted by: S | June 10, 2020 at 04:23 PM
Sword of love is you understood Punjabi. It was a very sweet exchange.

Sword of love is you understood Punjabi. It was a very sweet exchange.
Posted by: Jen from Austin Texas | June 11, 2020 at 09:52 AM
I don’t understand Punjabi although I am learning to speak Hindi. Rosetta Stone is pretty cool. Keeps the part of my brain active that will hopefully keep me from getting dementia. Spanish is easy. Italian not to different. The problem with French is I have such a difficult time with the French accent. There are certain languages that just have to go into the read only bucket. Mandarin and Icelandic are out for sure.
Anyway, why don’t they add subtitles?

Bizarrely I’m the opposite, becoming less risk-adverse with age. And I like change, always have, provided it’s for the better. For example, I don’t think it’s a good change for the NCAA to appoint the KKKs grand wizard as it’s next ceo. Another example are these buzzwords like ‘change agents’, this is corporate speak for imbecile mediocrities trying to pretend they avant-guarde. Thing is you got a problem when someone pushing for change is an idiot, because it’s not well thought through and the end result might be a whole lot of disruption that only adds up to more unnecessary complexity and makes things worse.
As for The Dictator, great movie, Oscar material.
Posted by: Georgy Porgy | June 11, 2020 at 12:51 AM
Everything you never wanted to know about the Klan, but probably should know. https://www.nber.org/papers/w13417.pdf
Well, I say I’m risk averse, but I was addicted to change like it was a drug. So my idea of risk averse probably doesn’t come close to anyone else’s definition. I mean if someone offered me an all expense paid vacation to literally anywhere stipulating I’d have to leave tomorrow… I’d most likely take it. Regret it half way through and then come back with interesting stories if I survived.
I just mean, I don’t actively seek change like I used to. And that’s a big change in itself.

The klan serious idiots. But guess everywhere got them. This Floyd episode is interesting as it’s a massive lightning conductor of progressive thought predominantly from the younger generation
But we forget the growing modern trend of right politics and populist governments look at USA and U.K. / ppl seem to be becoming more xenophobic.
Could be a cultural war soon. Who knows.

Xenophobia is huge in Joburg where my friends and in-laws live. A lot of people are somewhat racist deep down. Not everyone but a lot are…
Xenophobia has led to some of the greatest atrocities in history.
—The Jewish Holocaust
—The murder of black families by the Ku Klux Klan
—The Indian caste system which actively has hurts those in lower castes
—Exhibits of humans from Africa, the Philippines, and tribal pygmies were put on display in the 19th century in human zoos
—During World War II, Japanese Americans and Japanese Canadians were segregated from the population and lost basic rights and liberties.
—The Rwandan attempted “ethnic cleansing” which resulted in the genocide of hundreds of thousands of Tutsis and the rape of Tutsi women.
—Hate crimes against Indians in Australia in 2009
—The war in what was Yugoslavia between 1991 and 1995 involved fighting between several ethnic groups that resulted in a massive amount of deaths.
—The groups involved were the Croats, Serbs, Bosniaks and Slovenes.
—Riots in France could be caused by xenophobia
—The treatment of the Native Americans by colonists is considered the result of xenophobia.
—The hate crimes committed against the Chinese in the late 1800’s in the U.S.
—During and after World War I there was some anti-German sentiment that can be contributed to xenophobia.
It blows my mind. Not one single person had the DNA of a “pure race”. We are all the result of various races intermarrying and yet through either our ignorance or our arrogance (often it’s both) we believe we actually belong to one tribe vs. another. Sad.

And the Indian caste system is the one that truly blows my mind. In India they view lighter skin as more desirable. It’s like 50 shades of brown. It’s crazy. American spends so much money on fake tans and Indians are trying to lighten their skin. My mom has dark skin and was born with almost black hair. She’s darker than most light skinned Indians. And on my dad’s side my great-grandmother was Native American. My grandfather looked full native. The only thing missing was his feathered headdress. He looked totally Native American but no one talked about it. Yet my dad looked more like his mom.
Just for instance, in my immediate family growing up we all had different skin tones (and this was a very noticeable difference 😅). My mom was dark skinned with black hair like her father’s family, my older brother was dark but not as much as my mom. I was in the middle. My dad was just a little fairer than me but he had black brown hair and my younger brother was very light skinned with the lightest blonde hair and light blue eyes. None of us were the same color but we didn’t go around making a thing about it. People are soooo strange. I think most families have these sorts of differences but they don’t decide that they’re all a different race. We have this truly bizarre way of separating and distinguishing ourselves from others. And what for??? It’s so STUPID I get annoyed just thinking about it.

“We have this truly bizarre way of separating and distinguishing ourselves from others. And what for??? It’s so STUPID I get annoyed just thinking about it.”
I often think about why is it so difficult for people to simply accept that this world is imperfect. So much anger and also sadness because of the many conflicting different races living on this planet. Everyone matters, in their own way. All these protest marches. I wonder if they help or make things worse.
People talk about love but imo its easier to simply accept that life is difficult in so many ways. Probably because of the tribal instinct in humans, even though we will never change whats happening in the world especially in Kali Yuga. This world can be very harsh for some. If each person can try to be calm, balanced, caring, kind, and simply go about doing the best they can it would make a vast difference. No expectations.
What I find so interesting is that each person is unique. I remind myself to keep on connecting with and being conscious of the inner self, soul, consciousness, higher self, whatever we want to call it. Its the real being that we are.

What I find so interesting is that each person is unique. I remind myself to keep on connecting with and being conscious of the inner self, soul, consciousness, higher self, whatever we want to call it. Its the real being that we are.
Posted by: Jen | June 12, 2020 at 05:52 PM
So true. We are unique. You just simply cannot compare two people.
We’re like snowflakes. ❄️
I’m watching Udta Punjab. So depressing. If it’s not race, culture or religion then it’s drugs and money. Xenophobia and greed.
This world is suffering. Everyone is trying to find a way to escape—usually the wrong way. Only what’s inside really matters.
Why doesn’t the iPhone have an emoji for Buddha?

Read this on a somecard and it cracked me up:
People [vague identity (and likely false) accusation to gain sympathy], but you [passive aggressive motivational comment] and [condemn other person]

“It’s Hungry Hungry Hippos at best.”
—Dr. Adrian Mallory

Some Indian schools/colleges offer a B.A. in Astrology.
Just got my Vedic chart for the first time. According to Vedic astrology I’m totally rational, self-controlled, even tempered and quite boring.
Now, I no longer believe in astrology.

“These books are amazing because they’ve been used to negotiate peace between 4 countries, all of whom persistently threaten to eliminate their neighbors, have developed nuclear bombs to do so, and have been in perpetual war since their inception.”
Hey, S, I gotta get those books. If there’s one thing I love, it’s effectiveness. Next can you find the books that all failed business leaders in the past 50 years have read so I can get those too?

“We are unique. You just simply cannot compare two people.”
Yes, OMG you are SO correct. Culture simply doesn’t exist. You can’t say that there is anything different between Botswana and Norway, or Egypt and Chile, because we’re all actually just individual atomized units.
Once everyone understands that they’re not part of anything greater than themselves we’ll realize world peace, and it’ll be glorious. Why, I may just move to Brazil tomorrow. Right into the favelas.

Jesse,
I should thank you for keeping me amused. At least your rants are imaginative, clever and entertaining.
Hakuna matata

Here’s another great self-help book.
I would recommend this one above all others. I’ve found it to be particularly useful in my own life:
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/we-dont-eat-our-classmates-ryan-t-higgins/1127174076

During the quarantine we exhausted Netflix and Amazon Prime so are now watching a lot of Bollywood (which only I enjoy). Just finished watching Kabir Singh. I’m a fan of Shahid Kapoor. Anyway, had to recheck the release date because I could believe that in 2019 they still had/still have a certain cultural attitudes. I enjoyed the film even though it was forEVER long. Punjabi’s are frickin aggro. Very like able, and entertaining, but wow. They might actually need their own country.

@Jen from
It’s 003 and 005 that don’t have subtitles or cc. Do I have to learn Hindi and Punjabi? 😐

@Jen from
It’s 003 and 005 that don’t have subtitles or cc. Do I have to learn Hindi and Punjabi? 😐
Posted by: Sonia | June 14, 2020 at 01:08 AM
So you would learn a language to understand these 2 q and a videos? I’m impressed, next level dedication 😉
They are working of rereleasing all the videos with cc. Hang on tight and in the meantime do more meditation.

They are working of rereleasing all the videos with cc. Hang on tight and in the meantime do more meditation.
Posted by: Jen from Austin Texas | June 14, 2020 at 09:39 AM
Thx 🙂
Lazy day outside with all my nieces today. Weather is so nice right now.

https://www.wionews.com/india-news/india-china-border-dispute-20-indian-soldiers-martyred-in-a-violent-face-off-with-chinese-troops-306357

I think this may be my first official psychotic break.
FUCK EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!
AND EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
🙌

All your high hopes just came crashing down.

LIFE is so much more than spirituality. When I was 27 my boyfriend forced me to have an abortion. I’ve been through a ton of shit in my life but it all pales in comparison to that one event. One event that would shape the rest of your life. I felt guilty for a long time. But it wasn’t my choice at all. Seriously, nothing can be as terrible as that. NOTHING.
If Georgy has one condescending smart ass thing to say about this I swear I will find him wherever he is and make him pay.

It had haunted me my entire life. Everything else I can forget and forgive. But not that.
I was going to name her Eden. She’d be 19 now.

You can’t replace people. You just simply cannot replace a single soul.
What’s gone is gone forever.

Sonia I’m very very sorry to hear that you were forced against your wishes. It must be a very difficult thing to go through and live with. I feel your pain. Please look forward and try to move on and learn from that experience. Life teaches us so many lessons. Thoughts and best wishes with you.

No one is replaceable. You will always be haunted by the loss of a loved one.

@S
Eden might be one of your nieces ! – <3
7

The beautiful world of science and the spiritual equality of man! Coming to a segregated suburban enclave near you soon!
https://twitter.com/RealSaleemJuma/status/1273281672784474113

It’s really important that we support BLM.
https://twitter.com/joshlecash/status/1273450148027228160

@Dungenes
“” After all, a true guru must be a 24×7 counselor for all the relentless demons
in your life. “”
60x60x24x7x54x83 Simran –
See my comments and decide Simran changes in/is Shabd
777
PS
@Sonia : Do it 4Eden

@S
Eden might be one of your nieces ! – <3
7
Posted by: 7 | June 17, 2020 at 04:20 AM
💘

Last Wednesday I took a walk with my dog (I don’t “walk my dog” 😂) and he sniffed out a baby Robin bird. And yes, I know better than to try and rescue every “lost” baby bird because often times their parents are nearby and actually looking out for them.
But this one was wandering the streets after midnight like a drunken school boy. I was afraid he was going to really hurt himself because he was determined to walk on the road even though I kept trying to get him back on the grassy area and under a tree. He also seemed quite distressed and exhausted.
Long story short I took him home. I named him Andi and have to feed him on average every 20 minutes from sunrise to sun set. (They really have a pronounced circadian rhythm.) He’s been an absolute joy. But next time it would make more sense for me to rescue a baby owl. I’m not a morning person. This is some serious dedication. 🙃
We took him outside today for his first real attempts at flying. Got it all on video too.
Nature is so healing. 🙏

You’re more bacteria than you are “human”.
https://youtu.be/awtmTJW9ic8
You’re welcome. 🙃

This comment probably goes here:
“temerity”
I had to look that one up.
I’m opposed to any sort of betrayal in a relationship. Betrayal = death in my book. 🦂 However, unfortunately it doesn’t change the heart.
But as the Bible says in Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things,
and desperately sick;
who can understand it?
I had that drilled into my head from a young age. So “falling in-love” is a good time to check for red flags. Which is exactly why I’ve always only dated/married people that meet a certain list of criteria. And surprisingly, that doesn’t work out so well either. I’m vehemently opposed to arranged marriages but by the same token, the heart is desperate and treacherous when it comes to love. Either way, you’re going to get hurt. You just have to decide how much you’re willing to take, how strong you are and is it really worth it.
—Jaded

This is the problem with women and their Gdam lists.
As soon as you are ticking items off a list you are fkd. They so busy trying to tick off their lists they forget to simply pounce on who they ought to. Is he kind, loyal, does he treat you well and make you laugh. What else is there – Gdam idiots deluxe.

Is he kind, loyal, does he treat you well and make you laugh. What else is there – Gdam idiots deluxe.
Posted by: Georgy Porgy | June 26, 2020 at 01:03 PM
Actually, you’ve made a very good point. Those are really the only things that matter. Oh, and it would be nice if he doesn’t think women are goddam idiots deluxe.
Find all of that and you’ve got your perfect man.

Past and present are outside our control
To jgnore (to a safe degree) the past and future
makes the present somewhat safe
However , in many ways the now can be exponentially ENHANCED
by some degree of “God Realisation”
We see that a little bit in a few religions but giantly even by
the scientific & tangible personal proof of the sweetness
of Shabd
🌺🌺 Blessed & Gorgeous are those who can realise this
when ( or hours/weeks before ) the physical experience ends
This is so much easier and productive than battling the (sometimes horrific) remembernces of paste & ‘future’
777
Posted by: 🌺🌺 777 🌺🌺 | June 26, 2020 at 07:47 AM

Tragedy + Time = Comedy
🙃

I really hate those red candles.

So, now I’m gonna binge watch season 2 of The Order since I have nothing scheduled for tomorrow.
Just thought I’d let everyone know. 😝
Is there seriously not a popcorn emoji??

And I was right, the heart IS desperate and treacherous. Stoicism IS the answer.

But I have a theory, the people we love the most are those who make us feel good about ourselves. It’s not just a theory. It’s true.

Those are lucky
Not for George
RS
777
I knew a lady – lost a beautyful daughter
each day was worse

https://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blogs/spiritual-narcissism-creeps-in-quietly

And this is the guy who was believed to be the next RSSB guru:
http://businessworld.in/article/Religare-Case-Delhi-Court-Dismisses-Shivinder-Mohan-Singh-s-Bail-Plea/18-06-2020-288453

Those are lucky
Not for George
RS
777
I knew a lady – lost a beautyful daughter
each day was worse
Posted by: 🌺 | June 26, 2020 at 09:52 PM
I knew a man who lost his wife to suicide. Each day was worse.

n other news….
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/asia/india-largest-coronavirus-hospital-delhi-scli-intl/index.html
Posted by: Other Jen | June 28, 2020 at 09:30 AM
Nice pivot, Jen. I think this comment belongs here so I’ll respond here to make sure it gets posted. 😉
We humans are 90% bacteria. Unfortunately we are living in an age where most people are very deficient in good bacteria—the stuff that strengthens our immune systems.
Some people get COVID-19 and don’t get sick at all. Some get it and die. And of course there’s a lot of in between.
This pandemic has a lot to do with how we eat and what we eat. I would advise anyone and everyone to build up their immune systems—especially their digestive health.
It has long been accepted in the medical community that autoimmune diseases like diabetes and rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, MS, etc. are “incurable”. However there are numerous unexplained cases where people have autoimmune disorders and then one day they don’t. Doctors usually attribute this sort of thing to initial incorrect diagnosis. But who knows. Maybe you really are what you eat.
And holy shit, for the record I’m not saying probiotics will prevent you from getting any kind of disease or that it can cure you from an illness or disease. But I do believe everyone should be concerned about their intestinal health. It is directly linked to your immune system.
https://www.newsweek.com/gut-bacteria-immune-system-probiotics-1333541
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-03-gut-bacteria-essential-healthy-immune.html
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/research/advancements-in-research/fundamentals/in-depth/the-gut-where-bacteria-and-immune-system-meet
Kavita time! 🍸
(I do a lot of research and am used to reading a lot… not sure if anyone opens these links but I try to include the most interesting ones. 🤷‍♀️👩🏻‍💻)

Are we going to get a new Open Thread? Or does that just open things up for too many truly bizarre comments? 🙂
Just curious.

Science Nerd Alert!
OMG this is so exciting! Grab a cup of coffee, tape your eyelids open, be patient and bam! Enlightenment.
Seriously though, Rupert Sheldrake does a good job sharing insight into analogue computing, quantum computing, mechanistic materialism, the rebirth of nature, Science and Spiritual practices and what connects them.
The analogue computing video (first one listed below) was new to me. I had never heard of it. I always thought computing had to be digital. Now I feel stupid. 🤓
https://youtu.be/vTerUb7SSyQ
https://youtu.be/90fD3FWL53s
https://youtu.be/fiUE9jCTnOQ
https://youtu.be/hO4p3xeTtUA
—Sonia

Nah, sheldrake is too new-agey for my taste Nerd Alert.
I like my science to be hard-baked with plenty evidence for it, otherwise it’s just wooly wu-wu chakra pop-sci BS and/or conjecture. No problem with speculation and conjecture, but that’s not science.
I’ve also never understood why certain people like sheldrake, chopra and others constantly try to make these tenuous connections and links. Or even why mystic / wisdom traditions / philosophies try do this. For me science is a completely different field of enquiry to spirituality.
I don’t see any overlap at all. Science can only tell you about the objective material world without meaning, whereas spirituality is all about our subjective immaterial conscioness and meaning.
It’s one of the bits about rssb I don’t really buy into, but I can see why people from India two centuries ago (and even non-scientifically minded ppl today) might want sort of cosmological explanation. I don’t need that though and I wouldn’t expect to find it through sant mat.
That said, maybe these two modes of enquiry come most closely into contact when trying to explain whether mind (consciousness) arises from matter (brain) or vice versa.
Our common sense and science says the former, but certain mystic traditions believe the opposite. I’m not saying they are wrong, but there’s no scientific evidence for that theory. It is something that I keep an open mind about tho since so little is known about consciousness from a scientific viewpoint.

But if you want to watch something funny watch how the old fart Dawkins gets v irritated v quickly at BS:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PKe4fshETQ4
Dawkins is a proper atheist, regardless of whether you love or hate him, he’s arguments are incredibly well made.
The other great atheist was Christopher Hitchens:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MQox1hQrABQ
These two make phenomenal and formidable arguments. No one comes close to my mind, but they are past-masters of rhetoric. Still if you interested, there’s a stack of their debates on YouTube with all kinds of religious and spiritiual ppl.

So, my Robin learned to fly. 😔
It’s only natural and he’s having fun. Still in the neighborhood but totally independent now. This is the last video of Andi the Robbin with our dog. Just wanted to share something totally different.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RZJuAYlzd5IUTdUPMnGxen268ZkSJtT0/view?usp=drivesdk

Georgy,
Chopra was pretty antagonistic.
“Chloroform in print.” 🤣 I’m going to keep that one.
Well, The Hard Problem only became a problem about 400 years ago when Science took a completely new mechanistic view of the universe. 400 years ago is like yesterday. Assuming you’re a fan of Descartes? I’m with Galileo.
If you didn’t get a chance to watch the links above then please (I said please 🙂) at least watch this one from beginning to end. https://youtu.be/90fD3FWL53s
(Oh, and then Lucy.)
This is good too but I’m sure you’re time is limited.
https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/einstein/legacy/quantum-theory
—Sonia

Modern science only really became a thing a few hundred years ago. Before that it was pseudo science mostly with a few limited exceptions. Philosophy and mathematics are indeed far older.
For example, medical science only really emerged a couple hundred years ago (French pathology) and most major advances and medications within the last century (antibiotics imaging dna). Before that, if you got sick you were in the shit.
As for psychology and psychiatry and neurology, all new sciences where some question if psychology is really a science anyway. Some of the strictly behavior stuff from skinner may be, but a lot of this stuff is not used. psycholoanalsis seems to be more like philosophy and guess work to me. Be it Freud or some new-age gestalt therapy – mostly BS imo.
As for explaining consciousness, not sure we much closer today than 400 years, tho the studies of the brain neurology is significantly more advanced.
Still we know zilch about the pip I reckon.

Yeah, but Sant Mat teachings are a lot of guesswork—explanations given by Masters based on the commonly accepted and/or limited knowledge of their time. Doesn’t mean they were dishonest. It just seems to be the natural tendency of transfer of mystical knowledge. aside from a few basic principles in mysticism, most of what masters, gurus and teachers share is guesswork at best. It’s all the “specific explanations” that create problems.
They should just say this is the practice (practice description), this what happens (based on their own experience) and this is what you need to do to reach your spiritual goal.
Everything else one needs to figure out on their own, through their own experiences.
All these “specific answers” do more harm than good. A teacher should be able to relate their own experiences. Not all of them but the ones that apply to all practitioners imo.

I dont think the books are worthwhile. Don’t they say burn the books? Or was that Yoda?
I’d rather get it straight from the masters mouth. I think the books are half the problem. They are written by satsangis not the guru. I find the Q&A sessions v interesting. Straight from the horse’s mouth not via the misunderstanding of satsangis.
Not interested in what the satsangis have to say or their experiences. Listen to the master, do the meditation practice, keep your experiences personal, end of.
I don’t care to split hairs over what GIHF means – it’s not even a term he uses.

I just found free online ebook copies of books written about different Sants. There on a site by a pretty cool dude that belongs to another Sant Mat group but I have no idea which one.
Anyway, I started reading one about Kabir. I had no idea that Kabir was basically like some sort of mythical creature. Yeah, that doesn’t help.
I mean, I recognize that there are positive and negative forces in the Cosmos, but I’m not into medieval ideology.
From Alchemy to Hard Science. Why does our thinking have to be so extreme.
Maybe the Q & A’s are helpful for someone like you…

“Everything else one needs to figure out on their own, through their own experiences.”
Yes. Why this constant talking, thinking, judging, on a quest to find the perfect Master. Trying to understand life and death. Having out of body experiences and all sorts of weird dreams and fantasies. Why do we need to believe in anything which we will not know or understand until after we die. Even then death will probably be something like a little drop merging in the ocean of consciousness. I suppose each little drop has something to give.
But all this Master/guru nonsense, looking for help or a guide. We all have our own personal power. Its actually quite simple. Awareness. Keep the mind in check because it will never stop chattering. Try living from moment to moment, being Zen like, really helps to stop the constant chatter… but then this blog won’t exist… sigh…

The cult known as science is dumber, more destructive, more manipulative and overall inferior and less useful to human society and happiness than religion. Science, the cult, will lead to the deaths of the majority of humanity and the only ones left alive will be those who maintained strong faiths.
While fanatical Radha Soami followers and whoever else may be dishonest about things beyond our ability to know such as how many levels there are in heaven, at least don’t lie about what is happening right before their eyes on this earth.
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1278062907297800193
https://twitter.com/MarkACollett/status/1277550067029860352
https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/2020/6/29/on-behalf-of-environmentalists-i-apologize-for-the-climate-scare
P.S.
Look at this violent mob SPEAKING TRUTH TO THE POWER OF ONE SKINNY MAN AND HIS LITTLE DOG! Man, they’re so BRAVE! Like David and the Goliath. Reminds me of how tiny little McDonalds, Verizon, Paypal, the NFL, and ever other mega corporation stood up to all the middle big shots who don’t want their kids kicked out of college for telling offensive jokes. McDonald’s really speaks truth to power, man. Tiny little McDonalds vs poor people who want their kids to live a normal life. So stunning.
STUNNING AND BRAVE——-> https://twitter.com/Mrtdogg/status/1278046439260725253

The problem with Q&As is he may be talking to one person about one thing but it could be interpreted by everyone else incorrectly. And don’t even get me started on his comment about suicide (even though it was a perfect example of what I mean).
I agree about the GIHF thing. That is the most ridiculous concept.
All the Satsangs are based on Satsangis interpretations of things written by other Satsangis and unicorn saints like Kabir.
No disrespect. Really. I’m very chill in person it’s just my writing can come across pretty direct. Not sure why, but it’s always been that way.

@Jesse
I don’t currently have a twitter account (periodically I do but only when there’s a public issue I want to tune into more closely) so couldn’t open the links. I use social media very sparingly and sporadically.
Anyway, thanks for the link to the article by Michael Shellenberger. I’d really like to read ‘Apocalypse Never’ just to see where he’s getting his info. I’m sure some of his points are valid. However, even if we don’t destroy our environment to the point where the earth is uninhabitable (which I seriously doubt we can do anyway) it still seems we’ve polluted the air, contaminated the waters and modified our food sources to such a terrific degree that the health of all living things, especially humans, will be negatively impacted for generations upon generations to come.
So, we may not end life on earth but we’re slowly killing ourselves.

Hey Jen,
Have you (or anyone else here) ever taken Lion’s Mane? I’m considering getting it for immune and nerve support. My best friend worked for Fungi Perfecti in Oregon years ago and tried to convince me it would help with some of my health issues. Just curious if medicinal mushrooms are more popular in Australia.
Anyway, normally I just buy a supplement and try it without reading reviews. But nootropics make me a little nervous. It doesn’t take much for my brain to light up and I don’t need it to go all neon.
Also, it’s almost impossible to get info regarding which allopathic meds it might interact with.

@S
I m using it
I but Amazon ‘Time’ from the UK
Helps for short term memory
Also Anahabad Shabd – the root tones – are more specific!
I have to order and see they have added some other stuff
Let’s try
My doctor prescribed 10 years ago- when I was still young PIRACETAM -I used 4 years
but I never noticed an influence
7
PS = not un-importment
since 1994 50 mgr DHEA against DR_advice for the prostate
I have still a PSA check of : 0.9
Also flaxseed as prophylactic against cancer

I don’t feel disrespected – we simply disagree. I think he provides huge wisdom and I don’t think satsangis are remotely near that level of wisdom, and in many cases, are close to being insane.
I notice that many satsangis and exes are very sensitive and depressive. They are triggered by virtual anything and tend to look for all the negatives. No disrespect to them , and I suspect meditation does then the world of good, but I definitely don’t want to ‘learn’ from them. Many of them are bordering on ‘crackers’.
No I can spot a strong well-balanced mind when I see it. That is the guru, all the rest is chaffe and words. Perhaps there are other enlightened beings that walk among us – but none so far resonate with me like GSD. But I’m still reading, watching and judging – using my discrimination before committing and that is I believe how he has said it should be , rather than just jumping in. This is a massive committment.

Hi Sonia,
You may not be surprised to hear I heartily recommend lions mane, as well as a host of other fungi, for a variety of physical, mental and spiritual ills 😉
I would recommend using a mushroom blend to get a broader spectrum of health benefits? As you’re in the USA, I have heard great things about this brand from reliable sources, who produce high quality mushroom beverages: https://us.foursigmatic.com/products/10-mushroom-blend
For Europe and UK, I wouldn’t not consider the Amazon Time brand 7 mentioned, whose supplements I have used before, but I would personally recommend the following pill supplement: https://vegan-vitality.co.uk/collections/frontpage/products/mushroom-supplements
I could tell some stories about my adventures with fungi, but they are probably too magical and miraculous to be believed. So all I will say is try them and see if they agree with you.
All the best my fellow fungi fanatics!! 😁

To jesse
1. You need to identify are you modhi sound bite?🎃🎃🎃🎃
2. Your clearly deluded by you hindu background
3. Remember with out panjab india would be something else
4. Seems your hindu nations forgot that when they cut of there nose despite there face
5 . Remember that when you open your mouth
Harry
Advanced Disciple
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