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It is your blog
Not often but now and then a message doesn’t appear, I have never known why.
If it was done by you because it was considered as being of topic , it never re-appeared in an open threat.
What is worse, is that some of the messages appeared changed, with parts missing.
um, it’s not me.
I almost never edit comments unless someone has made an error and wants a correction. I never have failed to publish comments unless they are wildly off-topic or otherwise not in line with this blog’s comment policies. If you want a comment in an Open Thread, you need to put it there yourself. I don’t move comments from one post to another.
If a message doesn’t appear, I have no idea why that is. Sometimes people make mistakes. Currently I’m not moderating comments, only deleting those that deserve deleting. So comments should appear right away. I recommend copying a comment before the “post” button is clicked. I do that myself with blog posts, just to be sure that I don’t lose something I’ve spent time writing.
Thank You Brian … Good idea to consider.
Wow.
Off topic in an open thread.
That’s a first.
Mike, you can’t go off topic in an open thread. That’s a logical impossibility. Like Donald Trump making sense for three consecutive spoken sentences.
I guess this is how conspiracy theories evolve.
People need someone to blame.
And who better than “them”
On this blog, “them” is Brian since he is the god of this blog (the creator and sustainer and destroyer of all that can or might appear here)
So when something goes wrong – it must be Brian up to his tricks.
So with covid, various conspiracy theories emerge
Population control: they are trying to kill off the elderly and the poor
Vaccine trick: the vaccine is designed to either kill us or track us via microchips in the vaccine
So otherwise intelligent people make a decision not to take the vaccine or to deny the existence of covid 19
Ooo I love off topic conversations.
My husband said he saw this trailer and it reminded him of me. https://youtu.be/jpZrVxvG3mk
I’ve been saying for a long time now that I plan to be the Angel of Death. But then it dawned on me, that’s GSD’s job. So then I thought well, I’ll have to think of something more interesting. A lot more interesting…
’37 – my birth year
S, i know U aspire better, you r to wispelturig
(Hééé today I finding out that if I don t know the english word while editing,
I just type thr dutch word, next °°search on it, . . . nice
Further UM, I see the ruler of this blog as an ant simulating an empire to reign,
very similar to little donald ,
not that I expect any empathy from where it’s not existing . . .
One of his DELETINGS was when I warned against vaccinations 5 years or so ago,
while he was ‘pro-‘ , . . reason to pervertly Archi Bunker_like
deleting
Curious what his stand is today on ^NRA programming
it might bring in some empathy or kill that even more
Cheers
7
Well 7 …
>>Further UM, I see the ruler of this blog as an ant simulating an empire to reign,
very similar to little donald , not that I expect any empathy from where it’s not existing . << He certainly lays down the rules of conduct, but that doesn't make him necessarily a "ruler" and certainly not a "Trump". Personally I consider him a "seeker" after what he considers to be the truth. Being surrounded by people for many, many years, that have all sorts of fantastic stories to tell about their inner experiences and not being able to access the same, despite all the hard work one puts in, is not a pleasure ... so much so that it opens the door for distrust, doubts and more. Understanding and compassion, I hate to write that down, is requested. Wispelturig is difficult to translate ... the words found in the dictionary do not cover the feeling it has in Dutch.
As for Brian’s role, he carries out the Hukum of his Master with laser precision. He is the bulldozer tearing down the old decayed buildings that are now dangerous to live in anymore. And we who are chained to him are being dragged through the gravel, all the tar being scraped away. But not roughly. Carefully, systematically. And in due time we will all see our destination as we pass through the decay, the remnants of a long gone past.
It doesn’t matter for Brian whether he can see the destination or not. He has an unerring radar for bullshit, and this guides him beautifully as well. We will all see the destination together
“^NRA programming”
7,
Do you mean RNA?
Thank U Soami , Right , mRNA it is
and Brian
Wouldn’t U ask a second opinion from a man?
there is a contraversion on these plastic mats used
7
7
Haha wispelturig it is…
But even fate is no match for the wispelturig.
Goodnight cruel world.
I love a good melodrama, and test even melodramas have their fate.
7, nothing lasts forever my friend. Not even the guru.
@ Haha wispelturig it is…
@ But even fate is no match for the wispelturig.
Colloquial English is more direct… and colorful:
“F***ed by the fickle finger of Fate”
Oh Dungeness, you wise sage, to what do we owe the pleasure?
It’s still a White man’s world. Fuck me. Fuck everything. I was born a man in a woman’s body. The irony…
A worldwide vaccination campaign eradicated smallpox, a very deadly virus. Polio and measles are rare now but have reasserted themselves in regions where too many parents can’t or won’t vaccinate their children. I’ve seen a few people in my time with arms or legs made spindly and limp from polio. Is this what you want?
https://youtu.be/IpOz2sahBXo
I had the Pfizer mRNA covid vaccine series. It didn’t change me in any way, except, I will assume, for resistance to covid!
So what’s so wrong about vaccines???
Yikes, that was a lot of fff’s. Sorry about that. (Feel free to delete that one 😬)
There’s something to be said for not saying anything at all.
On another note, I had my second vaccine yesterday. I can’t even begin to describe the ridiculously weird and uncomfortable symptoms I had for 24 hours. Finally feeling better. In two weeks I’ll be fully vaccinated. 😃
Here’s a thought that’s been on my mind a lot lately—why is it that some Saints treat everyone the same while others look at each individual based on their karmas? Some Saints see only the light of the soul in each person. Other Saints feel it’s their right to treat each person differently based on what they believe to be their karma. Why would a saint see a person’s karmas? Why even look at that? And what kind of madness justifies treating one person differently to another based on their past.
I thought Saints were supposed to live in the present. In the “Now”.
“Unless the soul merges back into the Father, it will never get peace; it is a drop of that divine ocean. ”
Charan
777
God is probably the most lied about character in this whole drama.
It’s not that I don’t believe in God, it’s just that I don’t believe what people say about him/her/non-binary…
You do realize karma is like getting a credit card with such a high interest rate that it’s unlikely you’ll pay it off. It’s like borrowing money from a loan shark.
Why would god create such a system? Even better, how insanely ridiculous is it to believe that god would appoint someone to manage such a system. That would be the same as him doing it himself. That would make god and Kal (or whatever you want to call it) the same thing.They are the same thing if you truly believe god was insane enough to put a system like that in place.
Belief becomes your reality… even if it’s a temporary reality.
There is absolutely no way that an all-loving benevolent god created this mess.
And that’s not beyond anyone’s understanding. That’s basic common sense.
Seriously, if you do believe in Kal then you should realize he’s the one who started all this lying about god. A negative power cannot tell the truth—because they’re complete opposites. He sold you this story that god put him in charge and you can’t go home till all your karma is paid off… somehow.
And why does god allow him to do this? Technically he doesn’t. The light can’t see darkness. It doesn’t even acknowledge it. We keep suffering because we keep believing lies… and we spread them.
The truth is we created the devil. It only exists in our mind.
god is an energy, spirit, so It doesn’t “think” like we do.
I truly believe we are all one and the same—we just don’t realize it. And one day we won’t remember any of this.
god didn’t appoint some mad mathematician to decide when his children could return home.
That would be like parents putting a cruel criminal in charge of watching their small children. No parent would do that.
And please don’t reply with the classic, nonsensical “but His ways are beyond our understanding”. The only thing beyond our understanding is insanity.
The problem with the believing that a system of karmic checks and balances (and it never truly balances) as a suitable way for God to keep things in order and only allow people home when all that baggage is picked up, is that you’re believing in a cruel god. You sit long enough, and that’s exactly what you’ll realize.
This all just hit me last night… so everything looks a little different today. It’s weird but it’s oddly comforting.
@ XYZ
There is no good and bad in nature … it is only in culture.
The killing in nature, is the thing to be understood.
We are natural beings, living a cultural life.
The first thing written in “my submission”:
man came first.
Religions were instituted later for the evolution of his soul.
Man was not made for the sake of religion but the purpose was to attain bliss or to realize the lord.
Before Man became a cultural being he was a Natural being.
Culture was instituted later for the sake of understanding, explaining Nature.
Man was not made for culture but the purpose was to attain pleasure and enjoyment.
Nature didn’t give us clothes, …..
and ….
Which natural creature, eats for pleasure alone??
What is “seeking pleasure” in nature??
The birds around the house feed themselves on the fat-balls I hung there … it is too cold for the season, they use whatever extra food they can find.
Hi um,
What do you mean by man was first a Natural being?
Do you believe life on earth started with a golden age?
Um,
I feel like you’re saying pain and pleasure are the same, good and bad are the same, god and the devil are the same, truth and lies are the same.
I think we need to draw the line somewhere. If not, then what is truth and what is love.
@ xyz
That I do not know.
What I know is that I am alive.
And … I also know that most of the things that are in my mind, came there because they were put before me during my education and schooling for some decades.
Left alone I would never have dreamed of things religious, gods etc etc etc.
Culture. everything pertaining to it, just started one day in the past.
Most things you take for granted did not exist, 10 years ago, 100, years ago, 1000 years ago.
Cooking was an invention, no other natural creature cooks.
The natural man, lived like animals and plants do…. as part of nature
Hunting etc are all inventions, like fire and the wheel.
Humans have the satisfaction of having eaten, taken away from its original purpose and turned into restaurants were only taste maters, the enjoyment of food
Something like that …. ask yourself what the purpose is of things … it will shed light.
@ xyz
I feel like you’re saying pain and pleasure are the same, good and bad are the same, god and the devil are the same, truth and lies are the same.
I think we need to draw the line somewhere. If not, then what is truth and what is love.
Well I am not saying anything …. Many days and hours I am on myself. If I look outside or go out for a walk in the woods, I do not see any good or bad in nature.
Good and bad are things we attribute to the world around us; they have no existence of themselves in nature but are very needed in culture.
There is no god no truth in nature. Nature is by itself empty and silent. Truth and god are needed in culture.
The variety in which “the same” appears is endless. Some lose their interest in these unique varieties when they discover that there is no end to it and others cannot have enough of them.
There is no end to what can be known on the internet … and i am not alive to consume it all.
@um
Good enough. 🙂
@ xyz
If you look at the misery humanity inflicts on itself, day in day out, through natural glasses, they are just facts that happen according natural laws …. the same like a cat that catches a mouse.
If there could have been an alternative for killing in order to stay alive, I just do not know.
The mechanism of staying alive as an individual by consuming another living creature is far beyond my understanding.
The whole of nature is just one process of transforming and transporting of energiy from the sun … who knows where it starts and ends.
Why does anyone talk crap for the sake of talking it as if it’s going to get anyone anywhere
Nature does not impress me, from the sense that so much life depends upon the suffering and death of other life.
There are vegetarian animals. I like those. I like the idea of less killing. It may not raise actual spiritual consciousness, but it raises my feelings of peace and happiness thinking I am doing my part to avoid bringing pain, misery and harm to others.
I am less burdened, and the notion of living a life of minimum burden, where peace that comes from consciously avoiding harming others is a main objective, is a very rewarding life, from the feeling / sentiment perspective. I feel lighter, cleaner.
But it is not always an easy life. We find we have been hurting others even without thinking of it. We do make mistakes. We do have our reactions. And then we must make amends. And that can take years.
As I get older, I realize the truth of what the Dalai Lama said “Being angry is like drinking poison thinking the other person will suffer.”
So of course I don’t want anyone else to be angry because I became angry, impatient, frustrated.
I reduce my own suffering by avoiding any harm to others. Learning to forgive others is always forgiving ourselves first and foremost. And that also lightens the burden so very much.
You could say doing these things doesn’t come naturally. But in time they become second nature.
I buy something made somewhere by people I’ve never met, trying to make their own homes. But am I helping them or hurting them?
I do what I can. What I have learned, getting older, is not to stray too far from that objective, because, without thinking, we harm. With care, we can avoid most of that harm. And peace thrives in an open atmosphere without such burdens of anger or fear, or lust, or greed, or anything else that enslaves us, that causes us to covet, to hide, to create secrets, to lie, to cheat all to protect things and people we want for ourselves. I Love to be free of those every chance I can. And being free I see more than ever how terribly I was chained, and the chains, hidden that still remain.
Let’s say you are an adept—an extremely powerful Mystic. Does that mean you’ve realized truth?
Not necessarily. Let’s not confuse power with truth.
Italian itinitus,
Sounds like what you’re looking for is Silence. Kind of ironic—using Sound to reach Silence. Not discounting it at all, just can’t help but recognize how ironic it is.
Italian I tinnitus
>>Why does anyone talk crap for the sake of talking it as if it’s going to get anyone anywhere<< Whatever the crap was it got you .... don't worry have some tea
Just realized something… RSSB is always saying don’t calculate in meditation and yet their whole purpose of meditation stems from the calculation of karma.
IMHO, they focus waaaaaaaaaaay too much on karma.
The core of RS teachings is karma. It’s not god or the guru—RS teachings would have no foundation without the belief that beings are eternally imprisoned by karma.
And then there’s the whole mythological story they use to explain how karma began.
Reminds me of Greek Mythology.
@ xyz
That demands explanation!
Do you have something in their books that explains what you state?
>>>Coming at the time of death.<<<< I do not recall who but there have been words here, that the appearance of the master at the time of death is an fantasy created by seekers etc. Well ... Due to [rivate circumstance I was Searching the index of "light on santmat" for something related to "death". There i found at least 2 letters were it was stated that he HAS to come. So, why his successor denies that I do not know, nor if I have a correct understanding of what both of them have to say on the subject ... but ... one thing is a fact .... it is not an fantasy of the people. Even if a person would argue that these letters were not written by him but by members of his staff, he certainly read the letter and did put his signature under it.
Hi Um
The supernatural explanation of the Master as having responsibility for your soul leads to a nearly endless line of Satsangis at Q and A sessions claiming they can’t do their mediation and begging Master to take them Home. He tells them, at least in the most recent videos, that the Lord comes for everyone but they aren’t aware of it because they have not developed that relationship in mediation. But he also goes in to say the Lord is actually always there at all times and never leaves us. We feel He has arrived when we attend to Him, attend to Shabd and becomes flooded with light and sound and his visage. Then we say He had come. But it’s really all about what we attend to. And we must learn how to do that, so it’s all about our effort in meditation. The pieces are all there already. We are all connected up to Shabd and the Master. And each other.
One more point Um
There is no exclusivity and no caste system in the Lord’s home.
If you say “The Master is God In Human Form”…
Then I say “Every human being is God, see for yourself.” And be humbled by it.
If you say “The Master comes for the initiates at the time of death”…
Then I say “The highest lord of all is already within each person. The whole path in each of us, available to each, even the non – initiates.”
If you say “But the initiates souls are raised and not the others”
Then I say, ” all is left behind at death but the one element of Truth in us. Have we met Them yet? Do we even know that one eternal part of ourselves? Because everything else goes. It’s a fire sale. In nature nothing is left. Everything but that one element is dismantled, destroyed and recycled. Even our personality and everything we thought we knew. The sacred stained windows of our holy temple smashed, the whole building razed to the ground. Food for worms. All copies of our books here burned never to be read by anyone else here. And the originals, written on the waves of gravity through all space and time where no one will ever read them.
@ Spence
I am not in a position to discuss the teachings or what you write about it.
I just wanted to state and do it again, that in those letters one speaks of “the master” , without any suggestive hints towards, the shabd or the lord. For one that has had no previous inner experience, the reference to “master” points to his astral form, being the same as the physical form.
please do read letter 88 in light on santmat otherwise I have nothing to add or say to the matter.
Hi Um
I’m not quite sure what your point is.
If anyone here isn’t familiar with the teachings they can go read Sant Mat literature for free in a variety of places on the web, including the official RSSB website
https://rssb.org/index.html
I don’t think any of us should presume to speak for that organization, past, present or future. We have no official capacity.
But each of us is our own duly appointed official representative of our own view and experience.
There is Sant Mat according to Brian, Sant Mat according to Osho Robbins..
Sant Mat according to Um..
Sant Mat according to Spence…
Each of these are the official opinions of their author.
But as for RSSB and the official source, of which Charan and Gurinder have and hold the highest offices, let their organization speak for itself.
I can only speak to my own interpretation and experience and if anyone wants to know what the RSSB position was or is, I refer the reader to the source. And I caution them against taking anyone else’s words in their place. It’s unnecessary and lazy.
https://rssb.org/index.html
What happens at death is a big topic and there are quite a few official RSSB positions on the subject.
Of course the RSSB philosophy is its own. It only becomes meaningful to anyone relative to their own personal view. And in all events their own personal view is the only one they will ever know and can truly represent, because people pick and choose items and place them in their desired context. That’s OK so long as we own our own position as ours and do not hide behind Dad or Mom claiming we represent their position, essentially putting words in their mouths claiming to be quoting them. They can represent themselves. We are always and only quoting ourselves, using other’s words. Of course we could just go ahead and use our own. Much simpler.
@ Spence
It is not about what is meant with saying or writing “the master comes at the time of death” by this or that master or by anybody else.
It was just to mention that this believe that is shared by many followers of this path is not created by them but has it roots in what is said and written by the teachers of that path..
The same holds for the existence of inner regions. How that is to be interpreted is not the point. Here too the point is, it is not invented by followers. It is to be found in the initiation protocols, recordings, video’s and books.
Just that simple.
@ The core of RS teachings is karma. It’s not god or the guru—RS teachings would have no
@ foundation without the belief that beings are eternally imprisoned by karma.
No, I think mystics would say karma is only a game we’re playing.
Death, disease, war, betrayal, eternal conflict… it’s all a thrill ride
through duality. It has to be frighteningly real though and of course
every good drama has a taskmaster/director with an account book.
That ensures the game doesn’t end too soon to be a really gripping
thriller. So, every beat of the story gets played out. Each merit or
demerit brings a “stay-after-school” note. Either for reward or punish-
ment. Who then is this relentless villain Kal? [Where’s his damn
account book? I wanna burn it. ]
The consciousness that is our essence is the playwright. In fact
mystics say God is the “totality of consciousness”. But meanwhile
the play gets scarier with more twists and turns until the climax
arrives. At that moment our protagonist hears the director’s cue
and begins the last act. Finally, he remembers it was all a play.
He takes a bow and leaves the stage.
Parasitic leeches like GSD and his RSSB circus, secretly manipulate karma to lock souls in this circus show called life on earth. Guilt, fear, karma, blame, are the puppet strings attached to satsanges. GSD is nothing but the wizard of oz , hiding in the shadows, and doing the deeds of his master, lucifer, his god, eons ago. All in exchange for being called a god, have the fame of madonna, and the sexual libido of Austin powers. Dirty old man.
Hi Um
You wrote
“It was just to mention that this believe that is shared by many followers of this path is not created by them but has it roots in what is said and written by the teachers of that path..”
Everything is rooted in both the teachings, which heavily rely on metaphor and poetry, and the filter of the listener.
So the belief shared by many is a statement about other people. Why speak for them?
Ultimately the gospel is what resonates within us. Some will hear of the masters’ power, compassion and commitment. Others will ignore their own duty to the same, putting the master on a pedestal.
Who is this Master that comes at death in the teachings? The physical form? You mentioned the Astral form? Who really knows what an Astral form is? How can the Astral form take anyone beyond the Astral region, the very region that also contains all the regions of hell (except this one) and most of the ones of heaven?
And is the Master something really so distant from what is in each of us?
It gets unnecessarily complicated when you try to take things in a literal exact way.
The Master coming at death is also spoken of as the Master within you.
So you may attend only to the line of teaching you prefer and ignore the rest. Or just accept the lines of teaching you are comfortable with, including your interpretation. Whatever inspires you to mediate with full faith in your Master. Meditation without the distractions of doubt, yeilds the focus needed for progress.
As for what anyone else says someone else said, really, do we want to tease that out?
You have mentioned several times in the post that you have no inner experience, and so your adherence to the path is plagued with some doubt, but a decision to proceed, in the hopes of avoiding an adverse death. But could that be superstition?
It’s not about the day of our death. We are all dying daily. But we are asleep to it.
If we wake up, we harm less, and can help each other more. Do this because it is right, and not to assuage your fear. Do not feed that.
@ Spence
>> So the belief shared by many is a statement about other people. Why speak for them?> Who is this Master that comes at death in the teachings? The physical form? You mentioned the Astral form? Who really knows what an Astral form is? ,,
I wrote that I do not have to raise these questions or answer them.
HERE … in this forum …. remarks are made that these things are from the fantasie of the seekers. I just wanted to state it is not.
HOW people read this things and what is the intention behind writing them is not the issue here.
>> You have mentioned several times in the post that you have no inner experience, and so your adherence to the path is plagued with some doubt, but a decision to proceed, in the hopes of avoiding an adverse death. But could that be superstition?<< My goodness Spence ... Again ... I am not writting about death, fear of death but about incorrect statements here.an mentioning that doesn't mean I adhere to something.
@Spence
@ Who is this Master that comes at death in the teachings? The physical form? You mentioned the Astral form? Who really knows what an Astral form is? How can the Astral form take anyone beyond the Astral region, the very region that also contains all the regions of hell (except this one) and most of the ones of heaven?
Spence, aka the number 1 RSSB agent on this site is still peddling RSSB propaganda. Why are you insisting others follow the same alien internal lord/master? Are you getting bonus darshan from your demon/guru from the inside.
Have a look at link below, its Star trek , and read between the lines – dont take it literally, just the message behind it, but watch to the end. Start to question this beast inside you that controls you, it may just start setting you free.
https://youtu.be/ghSq2qlwrs0
@ …aka the number 1 RSSB agent on this site is still peddling…”
This venom, likely under several aliases, contravenes the “attack ideas, not individuals”
CofC guideline. There’s no attempt to discuss/defend the commenter’s own ideas, to
engage with others’ positions, or offer any counter narrative either… other than a
repetitive, toxic attack on GSD and his “agents”. GSD is a public figure and can endure
attacks but active commenters on this site shouldn’t have to.
Hi Um
You wrote
” I am not writting about death, fear of death but about incorrect statements here.an mentioning that doesn’t mean I adhere to something.”
I hear what you are saying. But “incorrect” can only be in the literal sense that someone may have misquoted RSSB spiritual literature. Either misquoted or taken out of context. And there is plenty of room for that in both the literature and different interpretations of it.
What Maharaj said to one initiate is quite often a little different than the message he gives to another. So there is plenty to make of those different responses.
Singularly was his advice to mediate and our answers within. But who believes him enough to do their work?
Then there is the larger issue of being incorrect about what actually happens at death because we have not yet experienced that. From that perspective no one gets it right.
To adapt Christopher Morely’s adage,
” Death is a foreign language. Everyone mispronounces it.”
Quoting a book means little if no one believes it. And even less if they have no faith in their own experience, and capacity to experience.
@ spence
How complex simple things can become.
HERE, in this forum there are people that suggested that that what they believe about what happens at the time of death and inner regions, is dreamed up by them. … in our language the saying says “sucked out of the thumb” …. well spence …. the statements that these people base their beliefs on are as singurlarly as meditation and can be found on tapes, books etc.
These thoughts, these convictions, these believes are in the mind and the hearts of thousands op people of all sorts of education, cultural background etc.
I was not arguing about the meaning of death or whatever. That young men seek death by killing themselves and others, believing that they will go to paradise and are pleasing their god …. is simple a thought THEY did not invent, they listened to people that stated these things, knowing that they were understood in that way. My point is not what these people believe but the fact that there was put something before them to consume mentally so that they could act in a given way.
Please just accept it as an example of the same mechanism.
Although those who lent their ears upon these things are responsible for it themselves and cannot outsource it, the fact remains, that if these things were not put before them they could never have believed them.
It is that simple. …
@ The supernatural explanation of the Master as having responsibility for your soul leads to a
@ nearly endless line of Satsangis at Q and A sessions claiming they can’t do their mediation
@ and begging Master to take them Home.
Ah, I assumed those cries were from those who realized that they’d never
meditate or make it home on their own. They knew a personal relationship
with and absorption in the Master was the only way back. Once complete,
they’d never leave home again.
They were begging for that. Maybe it’s an abdication of their own effort.
It’s murky whose effort it is though.
The following is an anecdote from the pixar film Soul
“I heard this story about a fish. He swims up to an older fish and says: “I’m trying to find this thing they call the ocean.” “The ocean?” the older fish says, “that’s what you’re in right now.” “This”, says the young fish, “this is water. What I want is the ocean!”
Similarly we are seeking a personified God.
T@UM
he same holds for the existence of inner regions. How that is to be interpreted is not the point. Here too the point is, it is not invented by followers. It is to be found in the initiation protocols, recordings, video’s and books.
The regions structure equals the moleculair system:
Tabble < Molecules < Atoms < Electrons/Protons/ < Quarks < Higs Particle < the beyond Higs Why somewhere high in consciousness, with copies in lower planes : The mighty One can't place HIMSELF, ( HIS energies ) only to be reveiled by : Simran : combined with Grace ( free cadeau ) Love ( generates the right frequency) No Thoughts ( in meditation ) Death ( unescapable ) 777
Well 777
Having only access to the world of the “table” all other things are like words in a book.
Reading “the lord of the ring” places me in a mental fantasy. However pleasant that fantasymightbe, it is just that … a fantasy …… it is not an experience of that world described in the book.
All things related to NDE’s, OBD’s , alternative mental experiences and more are just things I have heard of or been told about by people who had them. They could share their joy with me but not their reality.
I was just comparing
The (former) Masters f.i. Rumi and their books were not so stupid
How anybody can explain what Love is?
777
@ 777
At the outset of the Mathnawi Rumi has his scribe write that the book is an treasure trove for the pure of heart and the advanced on the path and that it is an maze were the undeserving get lost.
Years ago I gave up …. I can’t understand the words of Einstein and the words of Rumi and his friends are of the same level.
No problem, ….
@Dungeness
@ There’s no attempt to discuss/defend the commenter’s own ideas, to
engage with others’ positions, or offer any counter narrative either…
There are a handful of active members on this site, who are RSSB agents, that conspire to recruit vulnerable individuals into the RSSB path and spread untruths – stick to other official RSSB Forums. Your satsangs are not welcome here…!!!! GSD has already cornered that market on YouTube.
Also If you actually fully read what I have written then you would have seem I added a YT video for Spence to ponder over. My argument and position has been clear and unambiguous. Stop knee jerking into quick reactions and making brash judgements.
@ There are a handful of active members on this site, who are RSSB agents, that conspire to recruit
@ vulnerable individuals into the RSSB path and spread untruths – stick to other official RSSB
@ Forums.Your satsangs are not welcome here…!!!! GSD has already cornered that market…
I don’t know who is an agent of RSSB and who isn’t. Nor do I know whether they’re
telling truths or lies. A key objective of CofC though is to discuss ideas and not
personalities. Nor should anyone accuse others of “untruths”, or castigate them as
“rssb agents”, or allege their guru is a pedophile who should be investigated for his
wife’s death as has been done, or one who is summarily guilty of financial fraud.
Ultimately, that’s for the courts to adjudicate.
To do otherwise is not to pursue truth or discuss ideas but to engage in conspiracy
theories like a radical jihadist. One who’s forgotten his objectivity and must attack
ideas which don’t align with his own. It’s a short leap to justifying death for any
imagined enemies who dare disagree too. The US saw it happen January 6.
Hi Dungeness
You wrote
“Ah, I assumed those cries were from those who realized that they’d never
meditate or make it home on their own.”
If they realized that then why beg?
“Ah, I assumed those cries were from those who realized that they’d never
meditate or make it home on their own.”
@ If they realized that then why beg?
Hi Spence,
It’s a subtle thing it seems to me. Paradoxical because we know and we
don’t know in the same moment. Our intuitive self really does know in the
moment that we can’t make it home with our diminished attention. But our
mind, the books, the stage actor remind us effort counts most of all in that
quest.
But where does that effort come from? Not from outside of course but
from that intuitive, elusive “self” at the core of being that whispers truth but
isn’t always heard. Who throws the rope then to pull ourselves out of the
well with? How to stay in touch with the rope thrower? He has to be there
with the rope so I can start pulling myself out. Whose effort do I invoke?
All that’s seemingly left is to beg someone who knows the secret.
Someone who’s not trapped in the well even if he’s outside on a stage.
@ xyz
That demands explanation!
Do you have something in their books that explains what you state?
Posted by: um | April 23, 2021 at 02:23 PM
Deductive reasoning.
@ xyz
Deductive reasoning.
Hmmm …. well, all spiritual schools, Zen etc included are all based on karma in one form or another. Maybe they give it another name than karma but it is the same.
And a step further.
How came that idea of karma in the world?
Those who had spontaneous inner experiences, before the concept of karma was born, had only to deal with what happened to them.
Those who didn’t have those experiences could never have developed such an concept.
If this deductivly correct you know better … 😉
@ Dungeness
If you were not educated, into religious and spiritual concepts from early childhood, than what would be your position?
If these concepts were not put before you, you would have had mentally no idea.
The world is and has always been divided in those who had SPONTANEOUS inner experiences and those who heard from them and were intriqued by what was put before them.
Those who had these sponateous experiences must have sought and found means to re-experience that initial experience.
The explanation of the power that caused these spontaneous experiences was also delivered by them. And … as far as I understand it, there has never been a person to verify the truth of it.
So God, karma, reincarnation are all concepts that give meaning and direction to life but need not necessarily be based upon truth, reality.etc.
@ The explanation of the power that caused these spontaneous experiences was also delivered by
@ them. And … as far as I understand it, there has never been a person to verify the truth of it.
The counterpoint is that the experience of the supernatural is ineffable and
can’t be proven. At least not externally. No artifact demos from the “inner
regions” will be forthcoming. However, mystics concur these experiences
are available to anyone, repeatable, and can be confirmed. It requires an
inward path of mindfulness and often an intense devotion. Language falls
short when asked to describe those experiences. Try to pin down that
which is ineffable and attempts by mystics will be metaphoric at best.
Or they’re at a complete loss and only say “neti, neti” [it’s not this, it’s
not that either].
@ So God, karma, reincarnation are all concepts that give meaning and direction to life but need
@ not necessarily be based upon truth, reality, etc.
But that assumes some truth is truthier because it derives from external
shared experience and subtly dismisses what consciousness can become
aware of within. A man falls into a dream and asks co-dreamers “Is this
all real “? “Don’t be silly, of course it is”, they say. “You see it, you feel it,
it’s solid. We conduct scientific experiments on it. Of course, it’s real.”
Then the dreamer suddenly wakes and realizes it wasn’t at all. Neither
were the co-dreamers.
“Have a look at link below, its Star trek , and read between the lines – dont take it literally, just the message behind it, but watch to the end. Start to question this beast inside you that controls you, it may just start setting you free.
https://youtu.be/ghSq2qlwrs0 ”
The reboots never stretched the line between acting and schmacting that the original 60’s series could.
swami umami,
What the…
🤣🤣🤣
That’s the most entertained I’ve been in a long time.
Although I have know idea what you’re trying to say…
Denial is as total as love. You cannot deny part of yourself, because the rest will seem to be separate and therefore without meaning. And being without meaning to you, you will not understand it. To deny meaning is to fail to understand. You can heal only yourself, for only God’s son needs healing. You need it because you do not understand yourself, and therefore know not what you do. Having forgotten your will, you do not know what you really want.
2021 has turned out to be a pretty good year so far when you think about it (if you’re living in America).
Remember April 2020? It was so startlingly terrifying that it’s hard to believe we’ve come such a long way.
However, India is the new center of apocalyptic nightmares. Ground zero for what-not-to-do when you’re battling a global pandemic.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/27/world/asia/India-delhi-covid-cases.html
If you believe in prayer…
https://youtu.be/3mTh2joPPj8
S,
The reboots [of Star Trek] never stretched the line between acting and schmacting (overacting/artifice) [in the way] that the original 60’s [Star Trek] series could.
Captain Kirk was completely over the top but got away with it. How??? Demons, of course! Space demons!
https://youtu.be/wbzNYbvAI-Y
And this, Captain Pike visits hell!
https://youtu.be/J8R7EZTkiVk
S,
The reboots [of Star Trek] never stretched the line between acting and schmacting (overacting/artifice) [in the way] that the original 60’s [Star Trek] series could.
Captain Kirk was completely over the top but got away with it. How??? Demons, of course! Space demons!
https://youtu.be/wbzNYbvAI-Y
And this, Captain Pike visits hell!
https://youtu.be/J8R7EZTkiVk
Posted by: swami umami | April 30, 2021 at 05:59 AM
It’s like watching an opera without the singing.
Luckily, the only demons that exist are the ones we create. So, uncreate them.
Poof!
“Luckily, the only demons that exist are the ones we create. So, uncreate them.
Poof!”
Exactly what demons want you to think! Next thing you know they’re in control of your starship with planet Earth in the crosshairs!
Aftter reading the last chapter hfrom Apprecieting Reader’s quotes
Yes : Science can find the truth
diving in the quantum world for a few zillions of years
In contrast
the following quote can be tested by everyone :
Quote of today :
“My friend, the happiest person is one who always keeps the Lord in his thoughts. ”
I would say : “Can U spend just ONE day to Test it seriously
for just ONE DAY
777
–
“Paris vaut bien une messe”
–
Everyone teaches, and teaches all the time. This is a responsibility you inevitably assume the moment you accept any premise at all, and no one can organise his life without some thought system. Once you have developed a thought system of any kind, you live by it and teach it. Your capacity for allegiance to a thought system may be misplaced, but it is still a form of faith and can be redirected.
OK … S
makE it half a day ; 12 hours
@Who is God
YOU, . . . U like it or not
777
Not only existing outside THIS quantum_ time_space_continuun
but 7 times SO
In each finer_Up Layer , normally , One must die (cut actual frequency) to switch and go more pure
kind of Higgs-Boson° on your own
Seven times ( ‘normally with ascese’ , for the general public )
Amazing and strong firewall That Is – Wow
HAIL . . . The Divine Hacker
777
Posted by: 🌺 Best firewall Ever 🌺 | May 03, 2021 at 03:22 PM
🌺🌞💥 💥💥🌞🌺,
ascese (Dutch)
= ascèse (French)
= asceticism (English) ?
@777 If I didn’t know any better I’d swear you’re high most of the time. Posted by: Sonia | April 20, 2020 at 03:39 PM
Correct. . . . but. why & how U know better ??
but I try to make sense, trying patience
F. I.
When I say 100% free will, . . nobody reacts
Can nobody even imagine that S/He is God in Optima Forma
and always was
and ‘always’ will be. (if an always exists – “before Abraham I AM” )
and not be angry about dirty stuff U have added/restricted yourself during the countless devaluations of this processus
Next scolding the Guy who offers REAL INSIGHT in all this, . .
, . . I mean GSD with HIS task force package of 5 words
777
PS
If all this would be transparant for our minds
the ‘original’ ‘God’ should be labeled ‘really stupid’
April 21, 2020 at 04:39 AMPosted by: 🌞.💥.💥.💥 🌞 |
I can put in in other words, Your Universal Happiness°°
One of your 7 chakras : Arouse it
U can combine
Easy to do
The lowest Chakra provides the shortest Joy°°
The Highest Chakra provides the longest
So, . . . . . . . Compare!
777
https://youtu.be/-0beFQnB5lY
The Devil becomes God.
777
I haven’t attacked GSD or any other guru for that matter in a long time. I just have different beliefs, that’s all.
At the end of the day we’re all perfect—perfect souls. I don’t believe that God judges or sees our imperfections but our ego does. Our egos keep us trapped in the cycle of fear and judgement life after life.
I doubt you have to sit in meditation contemplating your sins to reach this realization before you die. It takes time to fully grasp—sometimes several years but still much less time than hoping you’ll have inner experiences that show you your ego isn’t “real” any more than the past and future are really. WHAT you are in the moment outside of time is the only thing that’s real.
I read something very recently that said if you can’t realize this is true for every person and everyone you meet then you will never realize it for yourself. So, I’ve been thinking about that concept pretty intensely over the past week or so.
It’s an eye opener.
To BE pretty intensely or Not to BE pretty intensely , . . . . That is The Question
It goes in waves, very long or very short, or both
Try to enjoy The system – little tips I gave
stop fighting gravity
My Curiosity : Do you dicuss this with Matthew all the time?
Kind of daily Satsang?
777
There is only one Soul
After your Trailer , I searched in Brians frame
777 “how it works” site:http://hinessight.blogs.com
to see if it still holds
Yes it does
Imagine : The Sun, . . a Galaxy is a Soul+Ego, a Jeeva
A Universe is tat too and there are Zillions
TTo exit chaurasi They need the desire for a 7 chakra body/matrix/engine
to start with
next use it
Don’t reflect on old ‘sins’, . . . perhaps they weren’t sins
Try to Love and the whole trailer of your existence will vaporise
It’s exceptional
777
Here is a link to Osho Rajneesh discourses on Guru Nanak’s Jap Ji Sahib – beautifully expalined in 20 sessions.
https://youtu.be/RTE-HWRvKeA
Some interesting points –
” God is not some person who we assume to be up in the sky. This majestic creation is God. God is that final frontier of our self realization”
777,
Yes, I discuss these things with Matt occasionally.
To your other point, all the Jeevas have 7 chakras and a mind. Even Charan said he sometimes allows satsangis to work their way up from the astral realm after they die. That’s in one of the books.
I don’t know how exact all of that is other than to say you don’t have to drop to this human level just to go back up. We humans seem to think we’re quite special when we say that. Maybe we say it because it somehow makes the bleakness in this world more tolerable. IDK
The end goal of Sant Mat is honorable but the method is not so practical for a world that will barely be habitable in 30 years.
One comforting thought though, we never die. We just go from one form to another.
I get what is meant by “Dying while living” but it’s not quite accurate. You can “travel” but no one truly dies. Ever.
Solomon,
And we aren’t what we imagine ourselves to be either. 🙂
Some earth shattering news here:
The soul never left. It has always resided in the timeless realm. We all have a physical body, astral body, causal body and soul.
Your physical body resides in the physical plane, your astral body resides in the astral plant, your causal body resides in the causal plane and your soul resides in the timeless realm. It cannot be otherwise.
However, your consciousness resides wherever you put your attention. Consciousness isn’t very well understood.
@Sonia
That was well said and clear without the peanuts!
Thank You
777
but I didn’t understand the word “even”
777,
I think you’re referring to the last word “Ever”. I should have said “Not ever.” It was just for emphasis.
A tiny correction
about the 7th chakra.
You are right but part of the firewall is that it must be activated with the right code.
In fact it has to do with Ida, Pingala & Shushuma
I think I wrote the ortho wrong
but they are the 3 Paths Ways to higher states of consciousness,
where Sushuma is the ROYAL ROAD
The Royal Road perfecrly fitting in the hierarchical system of Creation
and it leads to the King : Brahm(a)
The way of the monks etc via ascese to unify with that King
However , what Saints do is put their Jeevas on the tiny side road
the little Path use also themselves
to reach Sach Kand ( whatever you want to call that state of the highes place , -we talk symbolictly)
and when they passs , . . Brahma or His Servants have not the slightest idea
what’s happening behind their back
If U would tell them , they would not believe
Like – what already you know – for passing Sunna , the disciple will hide so to say in the pocket of the SatGuru – sunna is a black hole on incredable high level , . . black and zillion times bigger than ALL Creations
of which Universes are a tiny part
Not amazing because the whole proccesus is going on a long ‘time’, called Eternity
( Pls reread my little piece: “How it works”
So , as you remembered from Charan, Yes, . . . a disciple not able to generate
perfect Love in God, via Love for The SatGuru neither in the SatGuru
will be put back here ( U & I f.i. ) many other initiated Jeevas with their codes
will be placed higher Up, as high as possible
all happening without any knolede of Brahma and and higher up Para Brahm
Charan once or often (?) declared that less than one on a million satsangis
will go SK immediately
Everybody is treated very comfortably
Good, . . isn’t it?
It makes me think about the happening in Holland, I described here already
where an old Lady without educations asked the representative
Lional Metz ( in SK now; Lional :-)) to translate in english al letter she had written
about the to her opinion absolutely zero progress of herself in meditations
So Lional did and Charan said : Please tell Her that She is in the 4th region.
It means that she passed Sunna already , yes
and HE added: Her husband too.
Swami Ji has left a formidable Path for us
Please telll Matthew – He will like it
777
Even Charan said he sometimes . . . . .
I don’t know how exact all of that is other than to say you don’t have to drop to this human level just to go back up.
”Drop’ to meet The Emporer on this level – HE dropped too
even on Astral Level we couldn’t survive the first meeting, the Light, . . .
Even in Etheric level (little, only around earth where occurs NDE & Lucid Dreaming
Even there I fainted when I met Gurinder JI, . . when HE said (during congragetion with many) : “Hééé There we have 777, . . He comes to check me out! ”
In that Lucid Dream I woke Up in a hospital, while dreaming
(Later I Had to think about the punch or Upper Cut a guy, Osho received in the UK from BBJ in multi-placement )
U said once BBJ had no humor , hahahah
@Solomon
Haéé You are my birth chart, . . the Solomon s Star – A tetrahaedron 🙂
Some rebbis would pay a trillion for it
Correct : WhatU said but Osho Raneesh didn’t know
there is more than Brahma &Co
Keep The Faith Solomon Brother
777
The Void or Great Darkness is an illusion. It isn’t Real unless you believe in it and in order to believe in it you must believe it is possible for the Soul to be separate from God. But that is a false belief. The soul is not separate—we merely have layers of coverings over our eyes that keep us from seeing our own light. And that’s what meditation is for. But meditation isn’t terribly helpful when you don’t know the truth. First you’re taught the truth and then you Realize the truth.
What you experience is based upon where you put your attention. That’s pretty much spirituality summed up in a nutshell.
When I had never heard of Sant Mat
I decided to do Pranayama
with the help of a booklet of RAMACHARAKA
Within 3 minutes
I drowned in a kind of black glue without an end
I don t know how I came out
Meditation, I thought, . . . never again
I had never heard of this strange vacuum
Now with Charan : it’s a drop and in it are all creations encapsulated
Don t need any knowledge about it
Just want the thoughtlesness of Love
Be carefull Kid
was it Pzîchêr you got?
see this
https://tinyurl.com/3xx2fpeb
Shelter!
❤️
Once illusions have been shattered you will no longer experience them.
Try to go there now. You will see nothing but light. That void was created by the belief that the soul and god are separate. They aren’t separate. And now that you know the truth you can focus all of your attention on your true home without any fear.
It was probably the greatest illusion of all. One that every faith has preached since the beginning of time—the separation. But all illusions are created by lies. It’s Truth that lets the light in.
You exist where your attention is. You experience life based on where you put your attention. It’s the one thing you can control.
The Soul is Truth.
❤️,
I find your comments uplifting, inspiring and instructive, and I look forward to them, but the anti-vaccine video is silly. How could a vaccination given to one person magically harm people around them?
mRNA vaccines cause production of spike protein within cells, but I read that the instructions degrade quickly, and the spike proteins don’t circulate. Therefore, neither the instructions nor the spike proteins shed. Even if spike proteins did shed, they are limited in number and could not proliferate in the body of another person, because for that you need the whole virus.
I work in holistic health myself, and none of my clients or coworkers have reported such a phenomenon. Most have had Pfizer or Moderna and did not even experience harm to themselves. At worst they have a sore arm, fatigue and symptoms like the flu for day or two. That was my own experience. I had body aches and a mild fever the next morning, but 24 hours later I was fine.
I’ve had COVID too and can tell you it’s much, much worse. The aches were so severe that turning in bed took an effort of will, let alone struggling to my feet. I was lucky only to have minor respiratory symptoms, but I definitely had it. I lost my sense of smell for a week and tested positive.
COVID can kill, so why not protect oneself with a vaccine? Why not protect others who could catch it in turn?
Is GSD against vaccination? No. So where are you coming from with this science fiction about nanobots, computer bits and electromagnetic transmitters in the injections? If the spike protein is a man-made bioweapon, why doesn’t everyone drop dead within days of getting it in the arm?
And then there is long Covid or long haul Covid. Nothing to mess around with.
https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/statements/nih-launches-new-initiative-study-long-covid
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/04/harvard-medical-school-expert-explains-long-covid/
Attention is a faculty of the mind. Focus can produce feelings of joy, happiness and contentment if you’re focusing on something productive.
Focusing on conspiracy theories and negative news isn’t going to produce a feeling of well being.
At the ripe old age of 75 (will be 76 this year) I’ve noticed the difference between who I used to be and what my thoughts are nowadays. Lately I find telling myself that we humans are like little ants living on a tiny ball spinning through a huge multiverse and for some strange reason this helps. No longer trying to work things out, who and what I am, why I am here etc. Looking forward to the next adventure!
Jen,
I kind of understand what you’re talking about. For me, I no longer have questions or regrets. No depression or anxiety. It’s been a tough journey but well worth it. 🙂
@Jen
But You ARE The Sweet Anahabed Shabd
It never fails
777
Quote of the day
“Two men look out through prison bars; one saw mud, the other stars.”
@Umani
I had all symptoms february 2020 during 3 weeks,
Major difficulty breathing , Glutathione did help
I also tool Vit D, C, Zinc ,Magn,
I thought it was due to pesticides
Last weeks my friends in Delhi 1 baby one 10 yr Parents , Grandparents had it
Lost smell/taste too
They had all profylactic Wormwood – so fever only 103° F – and survived
I see CNN & RT and this came on my way
My private economic feel is that They are trying ti reset and of course I’m PRO
cutting the birthrates and against meat but not 4 gênocîde
Figures:
On 100 000
UK 156 death
France 163
EU further like above 120
South Africa where they did forbid / anti_campaigned
on HCQ, Ivermectine , Worm Wood (Artemisis Annui)°° : 98
Senegal , where they just had ended an anti malaria campaign with the above°° : 0
Maroc : 32 & Other arabic around 45
Here in france under 75 Yrs there is no over-mortality compared with 5 previous years
Above 75 it is 3%
These doctors in the video don’t seem criminal to me !
I am Trying to distill between the news_s , . .
No idea about vaxing in Beas, . . . do You ?
7
7,
I have no idea about Beas either, but India is in short supply. They weathered the first wave so well that they focused too much on export of vaccine.
The doctors in the video are famous anti-vaxxers and kooks.
Larry Palevsky
Anti-vaxxer…
https://www.insider.com/anti-vaccine-doctors-medical-license-free-speech-2019-5
Christiane Northrup
QAnon, anti-vaxxer, diagnoses with tarot cards, does not believe in germ theory, China runs the CIA…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christiane_Northrup
Sherri Tenpenny
Osteopath, anti-vaxxer, COVID vaccines cause death and auto-immune disease, anti-masker…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Tenpenny
Carrie Madej
Osteopath, QAnon, anti-vaxxer, spoke at Capitol Riot, Bill Gates is mastermind behind global pandemic, Christian fundamentalist, elites are out to get her…
https://www.vice.com/en/article/88avy5/a-qanon-doctor-who-spoke-at-the-capitol-riots-said-the-covid-vaccine-is-a-witches-brew
Lee Merritt
Conspiracy theorist, anti-masker…
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/back-away-americas-frontline-doctors
Genocide? Like Bill Gates wants to depopulate the world? He and Melinda are divorcing. If she dies under mysterious circumstances, it’s a sure sign that SHE KNEW TOO MUCH.
It’s interesting that so many people get up in front of GSD in his videos and beg for forgiveness of their sins. Then they worry about their karmas.
They don’t need to ask for forgiveness from anyone. The mere fact that they’re asking indicates that they are sorry. But you can’t change the past. Sure, you can apologize and make amends but the past is the past. And we all know the past isn’t “Real”. The future isn’t “Real” either. So why dwell on mistakes made in the past or worry about things that may happen in the future. Those are occurrences in the unReality. Only the present matters.
Why constantly calculate karmas?? Especially if you understand the true nature of time—it’s an illusion.
Sure, there’s cause and effect but people crucify themselves a hundred times over for the same crime. That certainly isn’t balancing the scales.
Perfect circles literally do not exist in this universe (it’s a fact). So, nothing can be truly balanced or evened out. That’s an illusion as well that keeps people trapped in the cycle of fear and loathing, judgement and attack. Focusing on your mistakes or worrying about the future won’t make you a better person. It won’t make you behave better. In fact, it will cause you to act worse and have less trust and love for others. To be a truly good person with compassion for others one must keep their attention focused on what matters and let all worries fade away. See the best in others and yourself—that’s true love and that is the only thing that will bring about peace. The soul is perfect. Keep your attention on that and you will find yourself living in His will treating everyone with far greater patience and understanding.
GSD says people shouldn’t calculate their inner experiences. They shouldn’t calculate their “karmas” either. It’s a detriment. How can you be at peace with all that worrying and calculating? And if you’re not at peace how can you still your mind and enjoy meditation without anxiety?
@Umani
Thanks for all your research
A lot to read
In fact I believe the “virus” is the warning from “above” ( not fr god – u might call them angels/demons more or or less unbelievable developed androids
constructed by our Golden Yuga Ancestors before they totally ascended
They also placed our moon & Iapetus,when Earth was only fire
Compare them with the Star Trek Borgs , but obedient to their root coding/instructions, to basically ‘unseen’ing help mankind and this virus is help!
They were ordered (coded) for
genetically stimul/modify evolution
to end up with 7 chakra beings ( Sonia – a horse has 6 chakras, not 7
and a flower has One ), . . .
) . . .
, . . . after Trump killed 3 of them in Majéh, Brazil with the new Pulsing Very High Frequency Laser
on 12 May 2019,
What an idiot!
You see . . . I conspirace also, I m also a 9/11 disbeliever and moon landing doubter because
of the 30.000 Km, ( not 400 KM) thick VanAllen Belts ( the equivalent of many x-Ray photos for astronauts )
Nasa lowered ISS 100 KM after constant migraine
Anyway, I try the best with my at 84 (next week) resting grey cells
(A dutch professor Radbout Hospital declared
All mankind has Parkinson & Altzheime because of pesticides
there is a grey/black part in all of us at autopsie-)
btw
The Gates divorce is because she found out about his Epstein relations
I think he was seduced and now she knows
She might even have the videos.
OK I will go through your links and integrate
see U
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Projection makes perception. The world you see is what you gave it, nothing more than that. But though it is no more than that, it is not less. Therefore, to you it is important. It is the witness to your state of mind, the outside picture of an inward condition. As a person thinketh, so do they perceive.
7,
Wow, food for thought!
Happy 84th in advance!
Trump killed three beings in Brazil with lasers? I’ve tried to find the story on the internet. No luck. Can you link us or say more?
Mage, Brazil. May 2020.
Is this it?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1283063/UFO-mystery-mysterious-lights-Mage-Brazil-Google-Maps-alien-crash-conspiracy
https://pin.it/3QdMQ9Z
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN9WjlKBvjBIm3AWDXI1EUA
Lately and “not”strangely her youtibe emissions
from 2021 up to 2018 are wiped out
Search on this can better be done using TOR
TORPROJECT.ORG – When daily updated it’s rather safe
Because it was during trump , I didn’t expect
it would be wiped
In short : Brasil asked for “help” for catchin them
when there were many kind of Rosswell activities
then the US did bring the weapon
broke the UFO – Transported to Fort Bragg
One alien was blessed but said before dying : “Why”
When I say alien , remember these are low rang but 199 IQ Androids
The Highest rangs are 999 IQ
Don’t fight that !!!
Linda had many interviews with brasiliens
It was great
and she had 200K followers
She broadcasted also “to much” about very ancien installations found in AntArctica
visited by Secretary John Kerry, The Russian Patriarch , Kiril, who met the Pope before going
to collect ancient “prayers”, and astronaut
Buzz Aldrin
The last one tweeted : There is Ultimate Evil here, . . we are all in danger
2 hours later it disapeared from Twitter
This is the same panick caused by special radiation ( IMMENSE fear of death )
good firewall
existing around two pyramids at 2 650 meter depth wwhere are two pyramids bigger tha Cheops are
and also ( is my imagination ) at the entrance of the moon at the backside
where the Chinese tried to take some ultra_hard diamond_gel of miles thickness
Therefore nations are running there but will fail to reveal the moon secrets
Secrets from 5 Billion years ago
ONLY ONE WHO MASTERS HIS MIND CAN SUCCEED
and there are NONE
They might have isolated Linda as they have done with another UFO researcher
made him crazy t–he had who had over 2 million followers on Youtube
SÊCUÛRETEAM10 or 12
after he diclosed the google earth coordinates of the 2 Pyramides
at the coast before Boston NY
You can still see them on Google Earth, . . at least 2 month ago I looked
He published otherabnormalities from Phobos Iapetus ( also always with
the same side to the planet, abnormal orbit), tetrahaedron covers etc
I m curious if this will be published, it s just a drop
Remember
In Beas Jaimal said to Sawan : The last time I was here these mountains didn t exist.
Another :
A Satsangi was bothered by strange demon like entities
and could get rid of it with the 5 words
Sawan said : “Well done”
7 77
All this is etherical, it has zero to do with astral level, not to speak about causal
which is a peanut
Yes Sonya
Charan: ” Where your heart is, . . you will go”
Seven,
Seriously…😂🤣😂
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/202011/the-mind-conspiracy-theorist
People in the west would rather believe the conspiracy that China produced Covid19 in the laboratory as a biological weapon against its enemies than the conspiracy that the pandemic is created to enforce a crime against humanity by allowing big pharmaceutical companies to make untested vaccines mandatory for humans to enjoy a ‘normal’ life.
Then you get psychological benefits from these quacks who present the theory that what they tell you through the TV networks is true, or the conspiracy that CdC under Fauci and Obama funded virology research in the Wuhan laboratory since 2015 or before.
So the quacks will tell you one thing about what comprises a conspiracy and CNN will tell you another, and Fox might influence you controversially in opposition to what Facebook or Fauci might want you to believe.
So bottom line is that one BS con by those who’s interest is vested in the spread of fake news is as much a conspiracy as those who have quite the opposite influence in their culture to convince their audience of another, that one person’s trust is as much a conspiracy as the bs behind the belief of the other.
Hoola
Follow the money trail
It’s open & clear
7
So, use your own IQ instead of media trolling
Didn’t 2 years of Linda’s emissions were wiped?
Who is earning Trillions and suppresses good medicaments (with nasty immoral and murderous campaigns) because they are to cheap
Did n’t Senegal after using HCQ ended op with zero dead
compared with Europe/USA with Hundreds
I also remember halting my motor and looking UP to the moon at that time
but used my brain when a month later I heard from radioamateurs
that the Apollo “turning point was on 50% of the traject to the moon
which is impossible
must be at 70% or something
911 just one of 1000 points
Why are the 48 immediately by fbi confiscated security videos around the Pentagon
still hidden?
Why is the published Jet motor laying there from a smaller plane?
Why is a third building demolished the same day
How steel H-pillars were all cutted like with laser beams – why this debris is hidden?
and I even didn’t start yet
7
We have no fox news in europe which is a blessing
Also I deeply sad to agree with the idiot resident on some little points like UV
Whe Sufficient UV_Ports had been created , there was no crisis
Oh Ye
It s 110 % plausible that a financial crisis has been postponed by the “pandemic”
without pandemic deads
Btw
I also believe Epstein is alive and with Ken Lay ( Enron Director) on an nice tropical island or Guam
And I also believe that SM Meditation is the solution
Attempting the mastery of fear is useless. In fact, it asserts the power of fear by the very assumption that it need be mastered. The true resolution rests entirely on mastery through love.
Vaccins for Govid?? No No for me!!
I heard that in Dera people has to be vaccinated.
Or will get the vaccin in Dera.
I had “long Covid” last year. Got sick with all the classic Covid symptoms for a week—it was like a really severe flu, and then I was totally bedridden for 5 months after that. Completely debilitating. Finally got better. I feel good now but still don’t have the full strength I had before Covid. It can last for more than a year and cause permanent health issues.
The vaccine is totally worth it. There’s no guarantee that if you get Covid that you’ll only feel flu symptoms for a brief period. They’ve discovered that the corona virus can permanently alter parts of your DNA. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines don’t contain the virus and they can prevent you from developing “long haul Covid”. There was a very healthy and athletic young woman who developed long haul Covid and 14 months later she is still debilitated. This has happened to numerous people and has become a huge concern to health experts. A lot of research has started that is focusing on long haul Covid.
I know people who were against the vaccine and then they wound up in the ICU for several weeks. Sometimes that’s what it takes for people to take this thing seriously.
In the US they have hired Covid trackers in every state to try and get an idea of how many people are getting vaccinated. The hope is that at least 70% of the population gets vaccinated. Then things might start to get back to normal. But it’s the new variants that are really wrecking havoc on places like India and Brazil. The really dangerous strains are more likely to develop in populations where less people have been vaccinated.
So, I guess if the majority of people around you get the vaccine then you have a better chance of not getting it. Regardless, the risks of complications that last long term just don’t seem worth the risk IMO.
Which is worse—getting the vaccine or being confined to bed for more than a year. Worse yet, what if you pass it to others.
Good S*
I bed they use Sputnik V
I don t like the Nuclear Fusion etc Livermore company
but these brightest people are offered J&J (Janssen) because they are in the know
about mDNA ( non vaxs but Nûrenberg Nazi Trial forbidden experiments on humans
This trolling S is not our S
Our S and her parents were healed quickly with HCQ
https://tapnewswire.com/2021/05/why-are-magnets-sticking-to-the-covid-vaxxed/
Each “vaxed” person can check this
Don t panick – The element Borium can inactivate these bots
Don t use strong neodynium magnets becaus the bots will come out through the skin
to see videos
I did not google but DUCK typing:
why are magnets sticking to where
Just follow the money
7,
I got over the initial stages of the corona virus with the medicine but then developed the symptoms of long Covid which occurs when the virus alters your DNA.
Yes, I got over the more deadly corona virus flu but unfortunately got hit with the effects of having had Covid… if that makes any sense. Anyway, Google it. Read about it. It’s another reason to get vaccinated.
Basically during those 5 months I didn’t feel “sick”, I just couldn’t get out of bed for more than half an hour a day and I would break out into a sweat and get dizzy if I tried to walk up and down the stairs. I just didn’t have the energy or strength. Then I started getting better and could get out of bed for about 2 hours a day. Then 4 hours, then six and so on. It took a really long time to get all my strength back—took about 5 additional months to recover from being in bed for 5 months. 😂
But all better now other than I have to pace myself and work like a normal person. No more cleaning out the entire garage or attic all in one day like I used to. I just break tasks down and get them done over time.
You have no idea how blessed I feel to have my health back. Without your health, nothing else is much fun.
It’s taught me to appreciate all the little things. Health is EVERYTHING.
It took away my ability to go manic… which is probably a good thing. Maybe even worth the sacrifice. Although, I can work on my laptop for several hours on end for work and other stuff without any trouble, I won’t be running any marathons ever again (figuratively speaking—running was never my thing).
For anyone who gets long Covid, just remember this—Red Bull is your friend. Trust me.
S
Why you didn t say
I had that too febr 2020 and took GLUTATHIONE
and it vanished in a week
Specially the hon incentive to respire
I had to use willpower to inhale ( counting)
but after receiving that drug , next day was already a relieve
Very natural what U tell without oxygen
And your parents ? – You said here that they took HCQ and grew better
Although I had it early with 103° here 39,6° I doubt to be immune
so I take actually ARTEMISIS horrible stinking drops
but now I put it in vegetarian capsules
My mam gave that during the war when there was nothing
I m happy 4U the great drama is past live
Haha Take the Red Bull
Don t worry , Be happy
Hééé S, You can test that magnet story
if it s true it s on RT tomorrow
if not true as well . . . 🙂
What a world HCQ is forbidden here but I have now IVÊRMECTÎN
I placed, used the words on FB and got immediately a warning
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Forgive the world, and you will understand that every thing that God created cannot have an end, and nothing He did not create is real.
A lot easier said than done.