With Radha Soami Satsang Beas, question the answers after you ask a question

Below is another great message from an anonymous person who periodically sends me a communication regarding how they feel about some aspect of Radha Soami Satsang Beas (RSSB) — an India-based religious organization headed up by a guru that I belonged to for 35 years. Enjoy. I’ll share some observations after the message.

RSSB translations:

You have the right to think what you like. This is a fundamental human right. This is “freedom of thought.”

Can you genuinely ask questions at RSSB? Many faiths will let you question, and leaders will do their best to answer, encourage it, accept where they cannot, and they have an authoritative source.
-Christian priests answer with the Bible
-Muslim imams answer with the Quran
-Hindu pundits answer with the Vedas
-Sikh gyanis answer with the guru granth sahib

What do they answer with in RSSB? There are many books pamphlets newsletters but what is their source of truth?

Who answers? Only the guru and in person when he’s around and IF he likes the question. RSSB lets people come up and do a question/answer session – but it comes with a big disclaimer at the start of what you cannot ask. Already you are being controlled.

RSSB will even translate these or subtitle these sessions, but let’s use some real-world translations. Especially around questions.

You may see a lot of these comments in the many books or from the community:

RSSB: “It is harder for educated people to follow, it gets in their way”
Translation: “Smart people are harder to fool, so we will gaslight and blame them”
Ask. In 2026, are they anti-education?

RSSB: “This person is a problem / challenging/ here to judge / getting into a fight / not following properly / against us / has doubts”
Translation: “This person is asking basic questions out loud which cannot be answered and expose this for the fraud it is, so we will attack them, and hopefully other people will get afraid of being judged and not ask more questions”
Ask yourself: In 2026, are they anti- truth seeking and doubts?

RSSB: “After a certain point the questions stop, when your belief is so strong”
Translation: “If your questions don’t stop, we will blame you for not being good enough at this”
Ask yourself: In 2026, are they really saying “blind faith”?

RSSB: “Don’t go on any websites or forums or online and read about RSSB”
Translation: “People who left report their truthful bad experiences online, we cannot control them anymore and fear we may lose control of others, so we will control your actions now to stop you being fully informed.”
Ask yourself: In 2026, are they really saying “don’t google us”?

RSSB: “Don’t take any photos or videos or record anything. No smartwatch phones cameras allowed onsite”
Translation: “We cannot allow any documented evidence about this cult to get into the world”
Ask yourself: In 2026, are they really saying technology blackout?

Ask yourselves the real questions in 2026. Not just “am I allowed to have the flu vaccine because they make it with egg protein and rssb says you are not allowed to eat eggs” or “should I get a divorce because my husband is violent abusive but it is not allowed” or “am I allowed to have a same sex relationship I love my partner but it is not allowed”

You are actually allowed to do whatever you like, as long as you’re not doing anything criminal or hurtful. Ask yourself if any of those things are actual crimes?

In 2026, are they really telling grown adults what they are allowed to do or not do? Are you a child and they are your headmaster? Do they pay your bills?

When you ask a question… also QUESTION the ANSWERS.

I haven’t been to a RSSB meeting for over twenty years, with or without the guru, so I don’t have any firsthand experience about how questions are handled these days. But what’s said above fits with what I’ve heard from other people. Here’s an example.

And it definitely fits with what I observed during the time I was an active member of RSSB and did “security seva” (volunteering) at gatherings attended by the RSSB guru, Gurinder Singh Dhillon. This is an excerpt from a 2007 blog post, “Blind obedience a hallmark of cultish religion.”

I used to be an enthusiastic Radha Soami Satsang Beas (RSSB) “sevadar” (volunteer). After I started learning Shotokan karate, I got to be a security sevadar during the guru’s occasional visits to the United States and Canada.

Now, there’s nothing wrong with security. Except when it’s overzealous. During a visit Master Gurinder Singh made to Honolulu I was standing outside the auditorium when the guru’s entourage strode by.

Gurinder Singh walked past me and toward the building where he was to speak. He stopped and turned around about thirty yards away, looking and waving his hands in a “no, no” gesture toward my general direction.

The reason? A man near me had pulled out his camera and was taking photographs of the guru. From a good distance—not at all a paparazzi sort of intrusion. But RSSB initiates were under firm orders not to photograph Gurinder Singh or record his words.

However, this guy was in a public place. And we had no way of knowing if he was a member of RSSB. Plus, even if he was, what right did we have to stop him from taking a photo of the guru?

Such considerations didn’t enter the mind of the aggressive security sevadars around me (myself, I had no inclination to confront the man). They yelled “Stop!” He looked confused. “You can’t take photographs of the master,” he was told.

It was a unpleasant scene, especially considering this was supposed to be a weekend of spiritual love. I can’t recall all of the details of the encounter. I’m pretty sure the man got talked into taking the film out of his camera and handing it over.

I do know that I’ve seen a similar scene in movies, like when a Mafia boss is photographed in a compromising situation and his goons rough up the camera man.

What’s most disturbing to me now is how little I was disturbed at the time. Like everyone else around me, I assumed that obedience to the guru trumped respect for non-sectarian niceties like the First Amendment. After all, the guru was considered to be God in human form, and it isn’t a good idea to disobey God.

In short, I was enmeshed in a cultish way of thinking back then. Heck, I may still be, but at least now I’m a devotee of the Cult of Me—which has a much more flexible code of conduct.


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40 Comments

  1. Avina K A

    YES

    Me and my brother are seeing stuff like this every time we go to the big meetings with “babaji”
    Like, no normal church or somthing has those security things from airports to stop you from taking devices to take photos.

    I’ve noticed he shuts down questions a lot, and you pointed out exactly what me and my brother have been noticing

    for example
    “Why have all the previous masters been men?”
    “Should I come here in a dress?”

    He also is extremely dismissive and insensitive. One time someone was like “I have 2 children and my wife died a year ago. I’m unable to focus on my meditation. How do I handle this?”
    And babaji basically went “You have food to eat, a roof over your head and children who love you. So suck it up buttercup.”
    He didn’t actually say that but ykwim.

    • Um

      @ Avina

      >> One time someone was like “I have 2 children and my wife died a year ago. I’m unable to focus on my meditation. How do I handle this?”<<

      You do not appreciate his answer .. that is alright
      What answer would be acceptable for you?

      Imagine to be in his position what would have been your answer?

      • Avina K A

        If he really is a master he’d give actual advice not suck it up.

        • Um

          @ Avina

          What answer could he have given Avina that would make him seen by you as a master?

          • Anon

            I think it’s the fact that there is no basic human decency, respect, kindness – and you’d expect that from anyone, and especially a so called ‘evolved person’ ‘saint’ ‘guru’ who is better than the rest of us. They literally say it’s a PERFECT living master. He can’t even get ‘be nice to other people’ right.

    • Ronald

      Are you sure Hank done It this Way?

    • Anon

      Why do you need someone to be your master? You’re his slave? By your own choice? The British ended that hundreds of years ago. You are going yourself to be voluntarily unpaid slave.

      • Avina K A

        I’m not going by choice. I’m forced to as I am born in a satsungi family

        • Anon

          I’m so sorry. I hope you get to live your life one day.

  2. Um

    hahaha .. the anti- authoritarian etc etc avant-garde is grumbling and grumbling that after all these years they could not muzzle him and he has proven to be insensitive to any kind of emotional and intellectual blackmail … hahaha … THE tool they use …. blaming an shaming..is useless

    Before signing up for a marriage contract “FOR LIFE …and … FOR BETTER AND WORSE” and ask for initiation [what is even “worse” than a marriage contract ..MCS compared it with asking to be accepted in the French Foreign Legion], some people would be well advised to sit down and ponder for a while whether they have the mental capacity to take upon themselves such an promise. … In the Legion is not their for YOU and YOUR wishes, YOU are there for them to the complete exclusion of everything else …. THAT my dear friends is the narrative

    The narrative of Sant Mat is simple are you willing to exchanged all worldly and mental pleasures and even the security of being an unique personality, the ego, for something other.

    Did not Kabir and the other great ones write poems that you had to cut of your own head and present it on a platter.

    Forget it .. he is not YOUR guru, like YOUR cat or dog

    Forget it … you think you can reach him emotional and intellectual but you can’t he is standing behind the “wall of the narrative” and that narrative is so strong that you will never create a hole in it let alone bring it down.

    Hahaha ..shrug your shoulders if you need to and calmly walk away if they don’t let you in

  3. Um

    Or in short hand:

    If you want on this mat, this path of the saints, that things have to be done as you are used to at home and at work, do stay at home and at work.

  4. Alex

    If GSD gives you the answer you want to hear why ask the question. Answer it yourself. He will not placate.
    If you know the answer or have preconceived notions where is the openness?

  5. Alex

    The new Hazur is more gentle (for now). The new sensitive generations will appreciate it more.

  6. Alex

    Forget it .. he is not YOUR guru, like YOUR cat or dog

    I’m said. Forget it … you think you can reach him emotional and intellectual but you can’t he is standing behind the “wall of the narrative” and that narrative is so strong that you will never create a hole in it let alone bring it down.

    Our own narrative. Our story. Our personality. All our precious stories stand bereeen.

  7. Um

    And for all to read:

    What I write has NO-thing to do with Sant-Mat, it’s teachings, teachers or the narrative that binds all and everything together. .. NOTHING at all

    What I write, at least that is my intention, is to point at what people do with that narrative.

  8. sant64

    Criticism of religion is good. But as I’ve said before, when the critic has to make stuff up to make his argument, his argument isn’t sound.

    “Who answers? Only the guru and in person when he’s around and IF he likes the question. RSSB lets people come up and do a question/answer session – but it comes with a big disclaimer at the start of what you cannot ask. Already you are being controlled.”

    RSSB area reps also answer questions from the public, and the RSSB features hundreds of vid of Gurinder answering personal questions.

    “RSSB: “It is harder for educated people to follow, it gets in their way”
    Translation: “Smart people are harder to fool, so we will gaslight and blame them”
    Ask. In 2026, are they anti-education?”

    What a translation. Anyway, Gurinder has told young satsangis time and time again that he supports education.

    The “disclaimer” is that the questioner focus his questions on spiritual matters, and not worldly matters like politics, gossip, Bollywood, etc.

    The rssb guru is obviously open to answering questions about personal matters of the satsangis. There are hundreds of videos of gurinder taking on such questions and never turning anyone away.

    “RSSB: “Don’t go on any websites or forums or online and read about RSSB”
    Translation: “People who left report their truthful bad experiences online, we cannot control them anymore and fear we may lose control of others, so we will control your actions now to stop you being fully informed.”
    Ask yourself: In 2026, are they really saying “don’t google us”?”

    RSSB has never directed satsangis or seekers to not use the internet or to not research this religion. The prohibition is about the source of official rssb info — ie, rssb is saying the only trustworthy source of accurate info is from official rssb sites, and not sites like this one, where disaffected exsatsangis charge that gurinder had his wife murdered.

    https://rssb.org/policy.html

    “RSSB: “Don’t take any photos or videos or record anything. No smartwatch phones cameras allowed onsite”
    Translation: “We cannot allow any documented evidence about this cult to get into the world”
    Ask yourself: In 2026, are they really saying technology blackout?”

    For rssb events, yes, and this is a good thing. I challenge anyone to explain the benefit of everyone glued to their phones or taking selfies in a satsang. Alas, we live in an age where young people and some older folks have no sense of decorum.

    “In 2026, are they really telling grown adults what they are allowed to do or not do? Are you a child and they are your headmaster? Do they pay your bills?”

    I suspect whoever wrote this is the same young person with similar offerings. I also suspect he was born into an Indian satsangi family and in the not-unnatural mood of adolescent rebellion. I’ve been through this myself, and later in life than I’d like to admit. And so I can’t completely fault his views here. But I would suggest he take his own advice; that is, he’s an adult, and he should come to understand that adulthood isn’t necessarily about giving the finger to every institution and authority. Again, religions should be open to criticism, but the criticisms he offers here are contrived and overwrought.

    It’s my view that a critic should focus on genuinely pertinent and important issues. For example, consider what Nick Shirely has recently accomplished with his exposé on Somali financial fraud. Nick’s criticism is useful because it exposed genuine corruption on a massive scale.

    Critics, up your game. People care when genuine corruption is exposed. People do not care to hear about picayune stuff like city hall voting procedures or a guru waving his hand over a camera.

    • Anon

      Genuine corruption like… The same Guru being found guilty of fraud by Indian courts in all the newspapers. We’ve all seen it.

  9. Alex

    I’ve done q and a every year since 07 minus the covid years. I’ve done Seva on the “inside”. Had at least 10 meals with the lead attorney for RSSB. Some “interpretations” are quite funny.

  10. Um

    Alex ..which country do you represent?

    • Um

      Aha Alex .. the “promised” land

      • Alex

        Um said Aha Alex .. the “promised” land

        That’s an interesting narrative.

  11. Alex

    Im a hairdresser by trade. Walking a few months ago I ran into an old workmate. We started at a salon at the exact same day and were there for about the same amount of time. We worked together 20 years ago. During our catch up he had vitriol hate for the owner. I adore the owner and cherish working with him. Both narratives are valid.

    • Arun marwah

      I am my own Guru now. Earlier, Mr Dhillon was my spiritual teacher. But now I am my own spiritual and worldly teacher.

  12. Ronald

    Gurinder does not want you to be like him. He wants you to be a good person.

  13. sant64

    Blogger last week: “Trump needs to send more missiles and bombs to the Ukrainian people to defeat evil communist dictator Putin!”

    Same blogger yesterday: “Trump defeated communist dictator of Venezuela, and happy Venezuelans everywhere are dancing in the street — omg this is terrible!”

  14. umami

    MCS answered most questions, simran and bhajan and the rest would come automatically.

    Those were the days.

    • Anon

      Why does Guru even say ‘Any questions’ then? Ask people to question, blame them when you don’t like their questions… what is that about?

  15. Rajan Dhillon

    I have a serious issue with RSSB calling itself Sant Mat. If RSSB truly represents Sant Mat, then it must honestly reflect what saints actually stood for, not just use the label.

    Historically, saints never remained silent in the face of wrongdoing. Whether it was Kabir, Ravidas, Guru Nanak, or others, all of them raised their voices against injustice, helped the poor and marginalized, and were never afraid of kings, rulers, or religious authorities. They lived among ordinary people and often paid a heavy personal price for speaking the truth.

    RSSB, however, does the opposite. It has never raised its voice against social injustice, corruption, or oppression. When someone questioned this, in the early 2000s, a person asked GSD directly:
    “Many gurus and saints made sacrifices. What did you do?”
    The reply was:
    “This is spiritual charity, not social charity.”

    Honestly, this answer was shocking. Saints never separated spirituality from social responsibility. For them, helping the poor and standing against injustice was spirituality. What was even more concerning was that after this incident, it was announced that no personal questions should be asked to Babaji. Saints never feared questions; they encouraged them.

    Another question that deeply disturbed many people was about spending millions of dollars on his son’s lavish wedding at a large farmhouse near Delhi—money that could have helped countless poor families. The question was asked, and GSD replied:
    “Sometimes parents have to do what kids want.”

    I never expected such an answer from someone who teaches simple living and high thinking. No saint would ever give this advice. Saints lived by example; they didn’t justify luxury while preaching detachment.

    Also, saints always lived close to the poor. They visited their homes, ate with them, and shared their struggles. GSD, on the other hand, is rarely seen among poor people but frequently appears with politicians, celebrities, and elite groups. Sant Mat never promoted spiritual hierarchy based on status.

    Then there is the issue of financial secrecy. When RSSB leadership sought court protection while seva­dars claimed the guru was “God in human form,” it raised serious questions. What is being hidden? Saints never hid their lives or finances. They had nothing to protect and nothing to fear.

    GSD travels first class, uses private planes, and lives a luxurious lifestyle. Which saint lived like this? Most saints lived extremely simple lives, and many even gave their lives for justice and truth.

    RSSB also selectively uses saints’ teachings. They promote strict vegetarianism, yet Jesus, Prophet Muhammad, and many other saints use to eat meat. Some Sikh Gurus even hunted. Will RSSB accept that too? Saints taught inner purity and ethical living, not rigid food rules.

    Finally, bringing a relative as the next Baba makes it clear that this has become an institutional or family-run system, not Sant Mat. Sant Mat was never hereditary. It was never a business. It was never about control or continuation of power.

    For me, this is not an attack on spirituality. It is a defence of the true legacy of saints, who lived fearlessly, spoke truth to power, stood with the poor, lived simply, and never hid behind silence, wealth, or institutions.

    Calling something Sant Mat while ignoring what saints actually lived and taught is deeply misleading.

    • Neon

      Hit the nail on the head. If people still cant see it is family business I don’t think anything can convince them otherwise. “We are apolitical (meets with politicians monthly)”. “Lives of own labor (no job)”. RSSB is just the prosperity gospel but for Indians and gullible Westerners.

    • Anon

      I hear you bro.

      We all have to answer for ourselves some day. That includes the Guru too.

    • Harry

      RSSB literature (about 200 books) and GSD’S typical comeback to this is “The Saints are not here to make this world a better place, they are here just to liberate their marked souls”.

  16. Um

    @ Neon

    You see Neon, people there are the lay people, the monasteries, the clergy, the organisation in ALL major religions and they all have their own motives as the live in different spheres.

    The common people are not interested in in the organisation and the clergy as long as they can perform their religious interests.

    People go to mosques, temples, churches and religious gatherings for their own sake .. religion is PART of their life.

    As long as the clergy and the organisation can deliver to the masses what they want, the masses will come.

    When the Christians flock together on the square before the Basilica in Rome, they come for their own religious interests. They are not interested in the millions that such an ceremony costs, whether that money could be spend in a better way and where the money comes from that is needed to run such an huge “enterprise” as the Vatican …

    The devout Sikh’s that go and participate in the services of their temples, too go there for their own interests and are not aware about everything material, that is needed to make it possible.

    That is how it is with all the ashrams and other religious institutions. …people are glad that they exist so that they can perform their religious ceremonies and pray to their divine ideas.

  17. Um

    And Neon

    If you go on holiday, book an hotel in a resort ..what is it that you want from the organisation?

    Good bed, clean room, decent food and comfortable surroundings
    etc.

    I guess that you are not interested in the owner of the hotel, the affairs in the organisation let alone the familie backgrounds

    These are al things that are made interesting while other motives are at hand

    If you would use the same standards for each and everyone where you buy somethin, with whom you sit together, even your closest near and dear ones ….you probably would hide yourself away

    Not to say whether YOU yourself could come up to these moral standards. ..unless you are a PERFECT one

  18. Um

    @ Anon

    WHY … does it upsets YOU so much what others do …even those that are seen as “perfect MASTERS” by their followers.

    Does the behavour of OTHER people makes it impossible to live YOUR life according YOUR persona;l moral standards???

    When our nephew comes to see his unckle, he does the driving when we go somewhere to have a walk in the forest and a decent cup of coffee afterwards with apple pie and cream .

    During the drive he is always pointing at the misbehavior of his fellow traffic participants ..and .. he gets upset and upset …last I did ask him if he, looking at what other drivers are doing, makes him a better human, driver or adds to a more general driving atmosphere … not impressed by what I say .. he will go on and say ..BUT LOOK UNCLE ..DID you see what that creep did.
    and with a sight …yes son of my brother, yes dear Marco , I do see all these things am might be much older than you but I am not BLIND.

    • Harry

      We are all ambassadors.

      If someone goes to the best college and can’t even hold a pencil, you will judge the teachers and the institution badly.
      If a “special marked soul” on a “spiritual path” can’t even master basic human decency, you’ll judge their teacher and that institution badly too.

      Bad fruit rotten tree.
      Sweet fruit good tree.

  19. Kranvir

    Gurinder Singh dhillon is definitely not running a democracy cult based on truth as no one is allowed to ask the real questions such as his character and moral compass. Personal questions are important as it helps vet the pedigree of a person. For example would you let your family member or loved ones trust a crook, a pedophile sympathizer, a dirty trickster pervert, a murderer, such as a land mafia bent baba gurinder of the rssb cult? I hope the answer is no. Furthermore gurinders make it up as you go along ideology, leaves you in total confusion and conflicted in your mind. There is zero clarity, zero personal insight, only empty copy cat answers to predictable boring questions. He is a baba with no moral character and is hiding behind a carefully manufactured image of a perfect guru. However, despite this heavy brain washing , some people are waking up and beginning to trust there instinct and gut. Gurinder you are to face your karma for missleading millions of innocent people who are soul searching. You are a wolf, and rotten to the core.

    • Ronald

      Very much appreciated insight as well as what I’ve experienced personally.

  20. Harry

    It says a lot when human beings end up feeling this way in an environment. How far does it go?

    GSD could literally beat up someone senseless in front of everybody and RSSB people would all go… “wow, the perfect living master even deemed to touch you – omg it is a special soul for the master to select you!”.

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