Below is another guest blog post from Anon, an ex-RSSB initiate. RSSB stands for Radha Soami Satsang Beas, an India-based religious organization headed up by a guru that I belonged to for 35 years, which explains my interest in sharing criticisms of the faith that I also found lacking. Anon makes some great points about what life after leaving a religion someone has been deeply involved with can be like.
To me, this bears a lot of resemblance to a divorce after a long-term marriage. I experienced this in 1989 when my first wife and I divorced after 18 years of marriage, because we’d grown apart. At first I couldn’t stop thinking about what went wrong, whether I’d ever fall in love with another woman, all the changes I needed to make after we split up.
Eventually, though, I realized that both of us were happier apart, rather than together. We both remarried. Life for both of us was better after the divorce. It just took some time to adjust to that new reality. I’ve now been happily married for 36 years to my second wife.
Same applies to leaving a religion. At first there’s a period of feeling unmoored, lost, unsettled, unsure of what comes next. But then new connections are formed. Life not only goes on; it goes on better than before.
Here’s what Anon says about life after RSSB.
“Life after RSSB” isn’t something I ever thought I’d say out loud. I never thought it would be a part of my past, while I was in it.
There were many things which stuck with me over time, which made me leave.
I had so many questions which were just never answered. Many of these were discussed on this blog. This blog was also one of the reasons too (thanks Brian).
The real reason was – I was just really sad following RSSB. It was sadness. I was never happy.
The real reason was a meme – an online joke I found. It just stuck with me. I’ve always heard it said “behind every joke is a hidden truth that makes it funny”. It made me realise – I was actually just really sad in the environment I was in.
People spend a lot of time talking about their journey on the path, but not their journey off it. I found it hard to envision a life after RSSB, because nobody ever discussed it. It was totally uncharted territory.
Here are some things I slowly realised as part of life after RSSB.
(1) There are people out in the world who will love you, be happy for you, smile with you, share their world and their lives with you. They will bring you joy and peace, and show you patience and kindness, and maybe some new things and opportunities. They will not be RSSB. You will be glad you know them, and they will be glad they know you.
(2) If you’re fortunate, some of these people may already be in your life. A spiritual path is not more important than the people in your life – don’t take them for granted. People in your life will call the ambulance when you’re sick, visit you in hospital, stand by your side at funerals, split the bills, do the thankless chores, lend you money/a place to stay, give you a ride, answer your calls, pick up your errands, comfort you in your pain, share in your joy, sit and eat a meal with you. People will do this, a path will not. They may not realise this if they’re in RSSB – but you can.
(3) Anything can be a spiritual experience, if it has meaning for you. I’ve felt close to God, the earth, nature, the world, others and myself – in the most unexpected moments. Which brings me to the next thing…
(4) You are going to go to new places and environments, which you maybe never envisaged. It will feel unfamiliar or overwhelming. It will be fine. There is a whole world out there outside the RSSB gates. Enjoy it. You will find places, things, interests, areas which bring you joy and happiness.
(5) You will have some very real experiences out in the world. These will not be illusions but very real experiences. You will realise, that you live in this world, and your life is in it. You will learn to enjoy it, in big ways, and in little ways.
(6) You will learn to feel comfortable and trust your body, your mind, your emotions, your senses – you will have good experiences and not feel like they are the enemy as you were taught – without shame.
(7) You may feel a huge range of negative emotions – anger, betrayal, frustration, upset, hurt, confused, distrust, sadness. You may even miss RSSB at times. Just remember why you left.
(8) RSSB meant something to you once and was maybe a big part of your life. It won’t disappear easily and you may sometimes return to think about it or be nostalgic – give yourself grace.
(9) Bad things are not going to happen to you because you left RSSB. Bad things are going to happen because that is just life. (Unless GOD FORBID other RSSB people verbally attack you, or exile/isolate you, or pressure you back, or physically attack you – but that is their own behaviour – which they have to answer for).
(10) Your relationship with animals will change. Some will love you unconditionally, if you let them, and you will also learn from them too.
(11) Your relationship with yourself will change. You will learn that you will survive and your life will evolve in ways you never imagined within RSSB.
(12) Things, habits, diets, beliefs that you used to cling to, may be completely irrelevant now – and some things may still be relevant.
(13) You won’t need to ‘earn’ things (like the master’s salvation and grace). You don’t have to ‘earn’ love, care and acceptance. Love is not transactional. Love is free. Love is just love. Do you make people ‘earn’ your love?
Initially on leaving RSSB there may be quiet, a gap, an empty space – this is just an absence of something which once took up space. Just as you clean your closet and remove old clothes, there is an empty space left behind, and then you must go out and buy new clothes to wear. Inbetween there may be an empty closet which feels “empty”. Things may feel “empty” once you’ve had the clearout but before you’ve bought new clothes. That empty space is just the “inbetween” phase.
These are just my own personal musings mainly (I’m surprised Brian even reads these LOL) – I’m still learning as I go. If anyone genuinely reads this and something made them happy or hopeful – I hope this reassures you that there is life after RSSB.
If anyone reads this and they are within RSSB – please don’t feel bad or take this the wrong way. I just simply found my happiness outside RSSB, just as you found your happiness within it – and I wish you well on your journey. I hope everyone gets these things. I just found them outside RSSB – I never found them there.
I hope this helps.
— Anon
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I left RSSB when I found out the shady financial deals of Baba Gurinder Singh in the name of his wife and sons. He was smart enough to not do any financial deals in his own name. But he diverted funds from Shivinder and Malvinder Singh’s Ranbaxy to his family members bank accounts. Then he avoided court appearances on one pretext or the other. That was enough for me to stop visiting the dera. Recently, Baba Dhillon went to a Jail to meet his highly controversial relative Mr Bikram jit singh Majithia and declared him innocent as if he was the judge himself! Baba is now unofficially/ officially a judge too.
That’s why Jasdeep has been listed already as the current head of RSSB. Even though crooked baba could live another 20 years.Jasdeep wasn’t caught although I suspect he did the computer hacking for Gurinder.
My beef isn’t with rssb. I think many of the people that attend to their meditation and meetings are just lovely fine people . My beef is with the boss who outright lied to me several times. Who took my life and activity as something less than his. Who is not a good person. I’ll say it again Gurinder Singh Dhillon is not a good person. It’s that simple.
Speaking truth to power 😀
This isn’t Turbans Я Us
@ Anon
I wonder, if you would not have been involved with RSSB, you would not have gone through the same proces.
It would not surprise me at all, that everything you described in the 13 points, has its roots in your experiences before; starting in the early days of your life.
Maybe your feelings of the time before RSSB are best summed up with the word “loneliness” , the feeling that makes many, if not most people, seek to get rid of by joining this or that community that “IS SAID’ to offer an final solution.
THAT is also the reason why people marry this or that person ..a person that is considered to be able and willing to give love to them.
Unfortunately, neither marriage nor any spiritual school, path, community, practice or even any religion, is able to GIVE anything to anybody.
In contrary .. they are means, tools, opportunity for a human being to GIVE of HIMSELVE what he or she has not.
The motivations that give a person the energy to get on in a endeavour, start all in a personal need and are in no way related to the endeavour, practice, relation itself and last most of the time a restricted number of times before the “fuel” runs out ..THEN … the mist is cleared …and … reality tells them that the OTHER is not going to bring anything.
These are the moments, painful for sure, that the best option SEEMS to stop, to divorce, find a NEW source, outward source to quench the initial thirst.
Unfortunately … outside the human being there is only food for the body to be found, and “food” for the mind ..all means to stay physical, emotional, intellectual, social and cultural .. ALIVE
[Honorable Sri Nisargadatta called human “food bodies” ,]
To bypass this human fate is only possible by going through “the small door” or taking “the small path” .. the path of Bhakti or just call it love, devotion, dedication to something or somebody .. service, serve the other
THAT would demand a total reverse of the conditioning and that is not easy and one can even wonder if such an thing can be “asked” from another person or suggested …
The FACT is however, that it has been done and as it seems with great succes by the mystics of this world .. that, according my personal understanding, were all “forced” to take that small path, going through that small door of love.
This reminds me of having taking notice that several teachers of different schools, have come up with the division of humanity in 7 or 8 groups with relation to the practice. They state that with the exception of a very few, the rest has all SELFISH motives to practice, physical, emotional, intellectual and even spiritual motives.
Given this statement of them, it has always been a puzzel for me why modern teachers accept to be followed by a herd of people knowing that most have no interest at all and are just taking part for their own selfish reasons.
The 10 commandments say:
LOVE your parents with all your heart.
It does NOT say only those that love you, those that are respectful, deserving parents and turn your back on the rest.
Christ made jet another step and said:
Love your enemies.
That advice has NOTHINJG to do with the enemy and what the enemy does. It is not about deserving; not about justification of what is wrong and evil ..it is an advice as to how to deal with it .. what sets one free
These commandments, advises are given to humanity that in time of need the only way out is the small door.
Nobody needs to, nobody is forced .. it is all becoming free from projection … projection on OTHERS .. be they RSSB gurus, teachings or spouses.
I see what you mean but if I was in India and in jail I would marry his sister( if asked) and call him the savior of the world ( the universe) if he gets me out. They need many followers to keep people off of the prisons and the streets. Free food kitchen and free vaccines. Like San Francisco in the 60s . And he keeps flying over the cuckoo’s nest. Talking Gurinder Singh Blues
This whole issue of the trauma of leaving one’s religion (or of leaving anything one has become attached to) is obviously a huge problem for many – if not all of us in some way. As it’s such a problem, it may be pertinent to enquire of ourselves what it is that drives us to find solace in associating with a group or groups of any genre.
It no doubt stems from the fact that we are herd animals; we need to be with others. There is, of course, also the physical need for us to be safe and secure. With us humans, this need for security has taken a deeper psychological turn: not only do we strive to maintain physical security, having developed an ego or self, we now feel the need to safeguard this mind-made structure.
Threatening this self, this on-going sense of needing to protect my self or me, is primarily the threat of annihilation, of death. Perhaps then, all our searching and attaching ourselves to the various groups and their teachings stem from this existential fear. We rationalise our behaviour by attaching ourselves to ideas and beliefs that appear to promise some escape from the inevitable.
It is probably a further natural inclination to want to covet the experiences, certainty or apparent peacefulness that others talk of or display. But generally, wherever we are at the moment, whether we are in the midst of great experiences, bad experiences, or nothing, this is who/what we are. To desire otherwise is an escape, perhaps an escape into more suffering.
@ Ronald
We all “sing”our own “songs”
Like the coming storm announces itself by thunder in the distances, so made the coming changes after 1990 themselves already seen in al sort of little changes in the sangat.
The pressure of the western mind on this path made itself visable in questions that an eastern mind would never produce. The changes in what was served in the kitchen and the ever growing need for organisation … It seems to me that people from the west tenjd to focus on certain details of anything eastern and make them seen as the essence of it … the bowing before steppong on a tatami, the endless use of words like sifu, let alone the dressing up in eastern folkloristic clothing … the advent of salades and sprouts ….there and then it started.
Personal”ly, what had been kind of heaven on earth, lose clothing started to become more and more to feel like a straight jacked [ if that is the correct word in english} .. anyway … in the end I was literally told: “there is no longer room for you in this organisation” and they were right … for one that had enjoyed the charm of Feudal kingdom and its charismatic citizens, the world created by the apparatsjiks was ni longer a place I wanted to sojourn.
AND … I am glad .. by letting go I learned so many things, adding to what I had already learned befor about human psychology by listening to the late MCS .. no academical degree in psychology could have offered me those insights.
AND … I am also glad that i could do so just on my own behalve without projecting anything on anybody and anything
There is nothing outside human beings that matters .. nothing!!
What matters is what meaning and value one ATTRIBUTES to it.
THAT .. is all in ones own hand,
Let me give an illustration ..our parents had a years-long legal battle with the homeowner. They had to lose that battle as there were so many other interests were in play beyond those of the owner. Yet our parents went to court and fought their battle and lost. Afterwords our father never spoke about it again. Why should he? HE, he had fought, had done his best as a brave warrior and lost due to the superior forces that stood up against him. Our mother, on the other hand could not let go and time and again speak about how unfair it all had been … she was right .. it was. …BUT … why should she punish herself again and again by projecting on forces much greater than hers?!
RSSB, nor its teachings, or teachers is the real problem … what matters is how one chooses to deal with it.
So I take notice of what is going on based on a written advice of the late MCS … do your own duties but do not get emotionally in these roles nor in the persons involved.
if hate speech and criticism adds to ones happiness, fortune, well being .. by all means go on and on .. if not let go of it.
Oh it definitely adds songs to the world. If I only could teach the world to sing. Cuz I can sing that’s how I let it go. F Gurinder and the limo helicopter he came in on. Sexy Sadie the place for ladies. It’s called detachment. Send yours there. I’m so happy now. That’s all that matters, right meta ?
I don’t see it as hate speech I see it as poetry because I don’t hate anybody. It’s just observations if you can’t handle my truth then live somewhere else.
@ Ronald
You are not the only one that writes here .. I did not write or suggest that you were hate speeking.
Whether what you write are JUST observations or not, is not my business, that is up to you to decide about.
And as far as living else where .. I always walk away when things are not my piece of cake, without any argument. When I am not pleased with the “FOOD” serve in a “Restaurant”..i twend to get up, pay my bill and just go away never to return .. no need for me to spend my time on the owner, the staff and the guests.
As I iam not always consequent, i might return to such an place against my own gut feeling …. writting here is one of these occasions.
So do not worrie .. you are not alome here and there are others here that sing so false that I hardly can understand that they are even “hired” and invited to sing here.
@ Ronald
In the sangat I was told : “there is no room for you anymore in this organisation”
Your words: …” then live somewhere else.” are heard
Honorable Wittgenstein said at the en d of his treatise:
“Do no talk about things you cannot tal about”
It is a formula to be used for many other things.
Do not go where you are not welcome.
Good time to thank Brian for a great site that says right there on the sign for x rssb. Although I never considered myself rssb so I had nothing to leave or lose. My relationship was purely with learning how to meditate and not even with that Dhillon guy. Who by the way did not want to talk about the path. I could not get him to talk about the path I’ve already been through this on here if you want to look it up. Is there anyone else that he asked to grow a beard? And I still have plenty of time to meditate during the day when I’m not on here so you mind yours and I’ll mind mine but it says right here to vent. Maybe some people should be on snowflakes anonymous. But I don’t believe in secrets.
@ Ronald
You are right .. everybody is free to vent
When the accused stands in the public pillory everybody is entitled to sit at their desk and vent what he wants as was done in the middle ages when people CHOSE to left their houses, go to the market place an yell at the accused and throw rotten eggs and fruit at him.
After a while, the market place itself starts to stink.
In the distance is seems that somebody yells at me .. than don’t go there you $#$%$#&
And he is RIGHT .. the pillory and the market are places to be and to go
https://youtu.be/lv_1EIKck8U?si=x__EPyyCXEclKy4K
These are tips on how to deal with Babaji and people like him. I see everybody’s writing as poetry, even yours because we tend to see the world as we are. Only when something truly shadowy and totally different than me that can’t be ignored do I also pay it any mind. No worries on me trying to be like him or some type of businessman. Religion is superstition. I’m not impressed. Charan Singh warned against that class of professional preachers. Yes I would call Jasdeep and Gurinder professional preachers. He’ll go to a famous politician’s house or a fabulous country estate so maybe we just don’t hear about the times he goes to visit a poor person. He seems to visit the foreign workers from India at every stop. I think it’s almost racist.
How is everyone, did everyone get their 2 and 1/2 hours of meditation in ? I got at least that much with the help of AI. ” This isn’t Turbans Я Us ” Gurinder Singh Dhillon quote on what it means to him to be viewed as a perfect Master. Apparently beards are. But in reality just a second rate consumer who also told me ” I don’t ever want to grow up”. It won’t do any good to tell him after he’s dead. He’s another master of war hiding behind a desk.
Life after RSSB. What a dichotomy that Gurinder is dragging it all down with him and when he dies so will it. The bottom of the bucket will fall out I predict. It bugs me to no end to see two gurus standing up there when you don’t even need one. And that’s just in case he gets arrested or someone wants to argue with his choice after he’s gone. I’m starting to think anybody can do that job. The physical form of the guru is a celebrity now. I thought it was just me being hoodwinked so I sure do appreciate Sheena and Brian , Anon and these other people that have had negative experiences with the narcissist guru and his exclusive flock. That’s what he’ll be known for. Some gurus are known for their love some for their compassion and some for their spirituality. Gurinder will be known for his money that he stole. Treasure beyond measure.
Life after RSSB shouldn’t ruin any former extra cuticular interests you had before ever being initiated by RSSB.
Of course, if all you lived for was the next Satsang which all became boring after Charan died, and you had no other interests, than yes, it takes time to become disconnented from LIFE AFTER RSSB!
But as most of us imagine, thinking we are different from the Herd of Sheeple, I never lost the former interests I had before I ever heard of RSSB.
There is never enough time in the day when I am awake to plunk on one or more of my dozen guitars, or 3 Banjos, or blow on several of my collection of Harmonicas that I I have played since I was eleven years old . And I still am learning to play tunes on my collection of Native American Flutes, or the most difficult Instrument I try to play, which is my set of Pan Pipes. When I recognized I suck on my guitars and banjos, I bang on my triple deck electric Yamaha Organ, that I bought new in 1986, which was the first solid state digital organ Yamaha made, that can make a novice like me Sound like a Pro. I don’t read music, and only play by ear, which is why I quickly was able to catch the Sound of Shabd when I was first initiated by Thakar Singh in person in 1988. Which rarely, if ever discussed here, but I think that the PERSONAL TOUCH of the Initiator , being the Transmitter of the Shabd, I.e. Sound Current, gives the Seeker the Initial “sample” of the Sound Current, and some times, even the Light.
I do believe we ALL have both, but both are stagnant, until activated by the personal Touch , igniting the Inner Flame, which is the Candle of The Lord.
Charan always referred to “The Lord” , of which most RSSBers never got even glimpses of, during their proxy initiations by Unawakened Representatives, in most cases, only chosen because of their business status among their peers, not because of their recognized Spirituality.
Now that I no longer sit in meditation 2-3 hours a day, I have more time to play with my toys, ride my Harley, Spyder Trike, or cruise in my Hot Camaro with a 455 HP. Corvette engine. Oh, and I revisit my thousands of photos taken by my 7 years touring 75 different Countries, from 2012 through 2019.
And I should not forget to mention my nightly adventures of Astral travels and Lucid dreaming, visiting those Astral realms that were opened up for me, during my years of meditation starting at age 45 and ending recently this year, early 2026.
At age 84, I have experienced most of the promises Plus a lot more, that the Great Master hinted we should receive, in his book, Spiritual Gems, that I really doubt many, if any, received by untouched proxy initiations where ZERO Light or Sound was ignited and transmitted.
So, considering there is plenty of advice flosting around in this Church, my advice is, if the Light is not on, or the Sound turned on in your Living Temple, and you believe it’s still avaiable , some where, if you can find it, then, by all means, hang in there, with Gurinder and Gill, hoping you’ll get it before you or they, physically die, or just ask Brian Hines how to convert you to Atheism.
Jim,
What if your extra curricular activities before joining RSSB involved visiting harems and use of intoxicants?
Should not continue these activities after joining RSSB (this, according to teachings).
@Tej,..don’t know if you asked me if I had been addicted to all those things you mentioned , or you confessed that you were,…are? But I had already cleaned up most of my youthful life before being initiated in to Sant Mat at age 45, when I had my Born Again Christian experience at age 35, when I asked Christ to take over my sinful life and make me whole. But I was still a meat eater until being initiated in to Sant Mat.
“ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.“ Galatians 2:20
Jim,
I was referring to myself or anyone in general.
Personally, although I don’t indulge in the pleasures of the flesh or wine after I have begun my exploration and experiment with Sant Mat about a year or so ago.
I still find that my mind does wonder and sometimes long for these pleasures…
Tej,…..the Christian Born Again experience was, is, completely different from Sant Mat initiation.
I can personally attest to how I felt when I was born again, at age 35.
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” 2nd Corinthians 5:17. The former Jim died, and a completely new creature walked in that became what I AM.
But, I admit that the first time I actually saw the Star manifest inside my head after being initiated in to Sant Mat, sealed my Deal!
When we leave an illusion for another illusion, it takes a lot of justification to make that work. Because we are just moving the deck chairs on our own Titanic. It’s our ship alone. Has nothing to do with anyone else, even any organization. The faults we see in the “other” in that “other” person, that “other” organization are tiny mirrors and we are looking at our own reflection. When we find fault we are just running away and this is the mechanism we use to build distance.
Until we realize we didn’t leave anything. We just sectioned off one part of ourselves from another, like a pie slice. But we were always the whole pie. There was never anything false about the slice, and there isn’t any more truth in the rest of the cake we claim to be living in now.
We are the whole pie we can ever possibly think about. And all the “others” are what we have reconstructed them to be, for our own purposes.
This whole system is a cage, a closed box.
And those who realize it, they understand it’s not going to be easy to escape the box they themselves are creating 24/7.
And so such individuals undertake a course of Sprituality. Not for any frivolous reason, not because someone else promised anything.
They are brought to that path by their own awakening usually long before they had any contact with individuals on that path.
So, those are the Satsangis, the Disciples, the followers of true spirituality who stay. Because the whole journey is within them, all the barriers are within them, and they found this out long before they know what a Saint was. And when the Saint arrived, they became not only salvation, but their next step on a journey they wanted to take and knew all about from their own experience.
The ones serious about it.
The others, the fadists, of course they will move in and out of many things. They are depending upon their own mind, and that’s shaky ground at best. But the seed has been planted.
If they pay attention to their life, carefully, which at some point they will have no alternative to and must attend to, then they will see the same truths that were told to them in the organization are real truths outside the organization also. And what they blamed was a straw man of their own invention. And they simply haven’t put the pieces together yet.
In time they will. Because the truth of our imprisonment here is fact, once we awaken to it. And the equality of all souls and our duty to treat each other as such with love is a fact, and part and parcel of our own liberation, not just a poetic idea.
When it becomes real, we return. That’s what spirituality is all about.
I have also left Rssb in 2025 when gurinder singh made the next heir of the dera jasdeep singh because in Sikhism 10 gurus came and each fulfilled their duties till the last breath without having a 2nd guru by their side and in radha Soami history to no one made a parallel guru and have placed two chairs on the stage.
It’s just a stupid thing that gurinder singh dhillon did but I think Gill is s aware of their scams because he worked in Ranbaxy when their scams are going on and maybe he wants to become the next guru di Dhillon has no other option .
And one more thing I don’t understand why they start growing their beards only when they are selected to become the next guru. Does their spiritualness only kicks in when they are presented to the world of they are Spiritual from the birth why didn’t they think of growing the beards and hairs same case was with Gurinder Singh same case was with Jagat Singh and Charan Singh . I think they have to wear a special costume so that they can scam the innocent sangat .
My decision to leave RSSB was hailed Good by my relatives when the news came out of Dhillon visiting the jail and declaring the convicted hailed political person instantly as innocent without any court hearing and evidence. This has affected the politics of punjab because dhillon’s sangat started targeting the current chief minister as bad and the jailed political person Good. One of the sangat is commenting that “” IF OUR GURU HAD STATED THAT HE IS INNOCENT THEN HE IS INNOCENT EVEN IN JAIL “”
and the very next day he got bail from the jail. From 2007 to 2017 the government worked with dera and made its relations with dhillon during this period the drugs racket was running rampantly in punjab one of the international drug mastermind when caught and produce before the court stated that bikram singh majithia now relative of Dhillon is extremely involved in drug market and now Dhillon has gave him clean chit and he will now again run for the elections from his seat. I feel pity for the sangat that is blindly following this corporates Babas and don’t even question them.
In beas the Friday and Saturday questions and answer session has turned into a comedy show where all the unnecessary talks will be done
Jokes on Wife’s jokes on movies jokes on appearances all the vague questions and ultra vague answers
Last Friday someone asked my in laws are very bad I’m thinking of divorce and dhillon answered : that this is kalyug the next family you will go into will be even more bad so try to adjust into the current family only .
Why he is promoting negative aspects world is full of good people too why are you making her scared and changing his mind.
There is no spiritual question that is asked in these questionnaires now it’s all a drama now people go there for vacations and picnics and cheap food and for clean environment these 3 are the main reasons why every Sunday lakhs of people attend the satsang.
One more thing the mediation practise that they give to the people is completely their own origin which is originated from shiv dayal from agra
They say that meditate on the face of guru and guru will help you reach the ultimate God but if you will read the scriptures of Hindus and Sikhs it is said that this body is maya and whoever will meditate on the maya cannot attain the ultimate. Because this body will be either buried or burnt into ashes here only. The only thing that will go is the soul and the soul is invisible to the eye. So if we are meditating on the faces or anything that has a shape, colour, caste, body then we are simply meditating on the maya ( illusion)
And the 5 words that are given are picked up from different sects at that time
Jot niranjan = 2 words picked from Sikhism
Onkar = 1 word picked from Hinduism ( omkar )
Rarankar = 1 word might be from the jogis that were wanderers of mountains again picked from somewhere else
Sohang = 1 word picked from ravidasiya community
Satnam= 1 word again from Sikhism
Actually these are 6 words that are turned mysteriously into 5 words for repetition.
Repeating these 5 words won’t help the soul in any way it’s just a distraction created so that the initiate just can’t able to fulfill the very first level of this meditation that is 2.5 hota sitting repeating these names until he/she will get tired and eventually fall asleep and can’t able to discuss with anybody else because the guru had told to not ask or tell anybody about the progress .
There is no progress that is happening.
Last satsang that I have attended in 2024 people were shaking like crazy they are creating problems for their own body done of them are to be evacuated out of the pandal on the stretcher no one has any peaceful hain from this meditation my relatives was one doing the mediation and screamed like crazy. At that moment I thought God will never see their children like this and it’s just a false practise that is turning every body crazy
Jasdeep gill the new heir of the throne coming every Sunday by reading the same script it’s looks like he has read The satsang all night like a script and performing it infront of the people like a show.
Overall the whole concept is vague they just living the life lavishely with Maybachs private jets private helicopters , illegally occupying the river land so that the other side of the people Drown when heavy rains come. And their children should live comfortably one in London and another in Singapore .
People please become aware they are just wearing the spiritual costumes from outside from inside the are not good people.