RSSB trauma is an example of spiritual abuse

Well I’m one of their gurus and I never experienced any of these. Yet I came up through the ranks just like the common grunt on the path.

I don’t think soo they are living normal life I have heard that JSG ji son rohan is working in the gurgaon company small cap company as the seo so they are living normal life.

Life is fair. We get what we deserve.

To many people, these are outrageous statements. How could life possibly be fair when there are so many obvious injustices? Babies being born blind. Murderers escaping punishment. Nefarious swindlers prospering at the expense of innocent victims. Yes, it is indeed difficult to imagine that life is fair. But consider, for a moment, that it is true. Is it possible that life appears unfair only because we are not seeing the completeness of life? Could a limited view of existence be the reason why we fail to see how, and why, every living being gets precisely what it deserves—no more, and no less?

If we came to believe that the correct answer to these questions is yes, then every aspect of our life would take on new significance. We could no longer blame fickle fate or happenstance when bad things occur to us. We also would find it easier not to blame others when life isn’t to our liking. We would take a fresh look at everything we do and think, with the knowledge that whatever we send out into the world, both the good and the bad, one day will return to us in like measure.

Life is Fair says this is exactly how life works. But if we are to understand how justice operates in the world, we must first study life’s big picture. We cannot examine life only from the point of view of the material sciences. We must also look at life from a spiritual perspective. Then we will learn that as human beings we are in a unique position. Like no other living beings, we have the capacity to understand the subtle laws that govern the world. With this knowledge, we can then make choices that will lead us toward the harmony and happiness every person seeks in one way or another. Just as the material sciences provide explanations for many of the things that happen to us, so does the spiritual perspective explain why we suffer or why we are happy. It shows us that there are good reasons for everything that happens to us. We get what we deserve.

And this way of understanding pins the responsibility for what we do, and what happens to us, squarely upon ourselves. Any distress we cause to others—whether human or animal—is registered in the atmosphere of our consciousness, where it returns to us in the form of storms of pain and misery. If we get blown off course on the way to the Land of Happiness, that squall is of our own making. Once we come to accept that the law of cause and effect governs all life, both physical and metaphysical, we see that every thought and action assumes a moral dimension. All that we do and think leaves its mark. A long journey is made of many short steps.

The overall course of our life is determined by decisions made every instant. Moment by moment, an unceasing flow of mental and physical action carves the channels through which the ship of our self sails in the future. Our loftiest goals and most down-to-earth activities are seamlessly linked.

In a similar fashion, readers will find an intimate blend of philosophical issues and practical concerns in Life is Fair. In almost the same breath there may be talk about both carrots and the cosmos, about the nitty-gritty reality of the food we keep in our refrigerator and the ethereal nature of spiritual reality. Still, underlying the words on all the pages is one basic assumption: whatever we do in life, we usually do because we think it will make us—or those around us—happy. If this is true, and it seems obvious that it is, then it is important to know what produces happiness or peace of mind. Unless this is known with certainty, our efforts to move in that direction unknowingly may be leading us the wrong way.
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From the book Life is Fair, by Brian Hines.

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I think the human mind can create many boogeymen. It’s sad to see, and worse still to see it encouraged, when there are real issues in this world and within ourselves that we can indeed do something about.

I would say the first sign that false accusations are being used to avoid personal issues is when the person making those accusations of other people are incapable of accepting their own life as it is. They make their target a villain of such power over them that blame is their only solution. And so decades later they are still blaming, and no closer to their own real self.

Not their fault, not anyone else’s fault. No point looking backwards. Looking ahead is all that matters for each of us, our next step out of the situation we find ourselves in.

It is sad to watch people who are going through real issues be misled, like Hitler misled his fellow citizens suffering a real and crushing poverty. He gave them false hope by encouraging blame and hate.

If you are free to pick any system of belief, even if you have personal difficulty following any system, you have a level of freedom very rare in this creation. Use it wisely. Get beyond blame and get to that source of what you feel so distant from. It’s in you. And therefore it’s on you
Where is that peace of mind, really?

Follow the one who can give that to you. But beware, we all must face our own demons. All of us. Be brave, take responsibility for your own inner condition and…

Accept that this is what it is and…
Let Go and Forgive. It wasn’t yours, it doesn’t belong to you, and you do not belong to it.

And if you need to, Submit all this to a higher power.
And learn to surrender to reality.

BTW
Life is not fair. It never was. We are given far more than we could ever understand. A great treasure. But equally, we suffer so much that comes from left field, that keeps us from our own treasures.

What we earn, others inherit.

The harm others do, we inherit.

There may be a story somewhere that explains it all. But that is just a story.

In all events there is only forward. As time moves, so do we. We can steer the stails, but we must accept and adapt to the winds.

There’s no such thing as an ex initiated. There’s only the uninitiated. Once you’re initiated it’s impossible to undo it. Only your feeble mind and reasons for initiation may have changed. But ex initiated doesn’t exist. What are you going to do, get Superman to spend the axis backwards to turn back time? You were looking for a miracle and that’s not this.

What makes RSSB especially dangerous is not just its beliefs, but the psychological control it exerts over followers. By placing a living guru beyond questioning and framing obedience as the only path to spiritual progress, people are gradually trained to doubt their own judgment. Over time, normal aspects of life — relationships, critical thinking, emotional boundaries, ambitions, and responsibilities — become subordinate to loyalty to the organisation.

A disturbing pattern seen among many RSSB followers is how all success and meaning in life is credited solely to GSD, while personal responsibility and independent decision-making slowly disappear. I have seen people become so absorbed that they lose social contact outside the organisation, grow financially weaker, and struggle to think and function like balanced, independent adults. In the pursuit of Moksha, many sacrifice the life they actually have — emotionally, socially, and practically.

This level of mental conditioning raises serious ethical — and potentially legal — concerns. When people are effectively discouraged from living a normal, autonomous life, the long-term consequences fall heavily on their families. Children raised in such environments often suffer the most: they struggle to build social bonds outside the RSSB community, feel isolated from wider society, and later resent their parents for denying them a healthy, well-rounded upbringing. When a spiritual path damages family bonds, social development, and real-world stability, it stops being spirituality and becomes control.

I think what Ronald writes sums it up more or less.

Most? All?, attribute meaning and value to whatever they experience according their personal, social and cultural conditioning.

In the days of the previous Guru, there were many national and international bandharas in Europe.

Parents would bring their children and children were look after by some young sevadars ..AND .. they had a good time. Their faces were seldom seen during a satsang. As far as I am informed only a small percentage of these children asked later for initiation.

What happened was in accordance with the goal of the new Guru, to stop the growth of what had become an “fan” club.
The initiation age was going up, an all things that made participation in the organisation pleasurable were over time stopped to ..”Socializing” was brought down to a bare minimum.

But yes Sunil … If one is born into an Indian Family, the game is played in a different way as everything religious has a complete different value and meaning, social and cultural, than elswhere in the world. In Europe, amerika etc nobody is first of all an member of an group but an individulal.

That said Sunil .. what remains is what people do with a religion and the religion by itself has no power to make people do things.

There are many vegetarians in the world who aren’t even aware of rssb and I recommend being a vegetarian regardless. But live and let live. I’m not judging anybody but I’d like to be judged because I’m pretty perfect , girls. Wife died from breast cancer. Meat eating dad lived to be 92. At least before he died he admitted to the existence of a higher intelligence. I didn’t want to tell him that that shouldn’t be hard for him to find. I’m proud of my son never accepted Babaji now. But will Babaji turn out to be the liar to my son’s dad ( me). We shall see before we both lose all respect. He’s like Trump he gets things done but the way he does it is without any class. Very proud of my son for not accepting Babaji even though he’s seen him a few times. I accepted Charan Singh. I did that because he was so much older at the time than I was. Not because he was any particular race or nationality. I was already many years a vegetarian when I’d heard of rssb.

In Sant Mat you are not permitted to blame anyone, even yourself.

Someone asked Maharaji if a past life regression would help them deal with their current anxieties. He asked, “You want to know even more? Don’t you have enough to deal with right now?”

And dealing with right now is a powerful lesson. The sins of your own past and those of everyone else are just baggage. More is not the answer. They must be relinquished. Lighten your own load by lightening everyone else’s. That’s the real purpose of forgiveness. And meditation is nothing but the practice of lightening your load, and hence spiritual meditation includes forgiveness. It’s the price of admission within.

And if you have not forgiven, even diligently working to forgive however impossible that may seem, like so many of the barriers we face, largely from within our own psychology, then there is your next barrier to personal and spiritual progress. And there is the purpose for all that meditation, so that Simran, Dion and Bhajan.

So spiritual meditation serves a very practical purpose. Once you learn the basics, then use it, and you can see for yourself your own progress with these challenges and distractions, and work your meditation little by little, in partnership, to overcome them.

Maharaji also said that he visited foreign centers so that people wouldn’t have to come see him at the Dera but inevitably most of the people that visited were from those same centers that he tried to keep in place. That’s how Babaji keeps down the celebrity and fan culture? The celebrity culture is what’s ruined everything. I’m blaming that. And of course the internet which people had been doing without quite well for thousands of years and completing the search of what mattered without the damn internet. I can’t believe the newbie is even answering questions about it. He might not even exist outside of cyberface. My son is free to follow him if he wants to. See how far that gets him. I have no questions at all for Mr Gill except a comment. Your mama dresses you funny

When asked how we can get along with people we disagree with, like our parents, Jasdeep said, ‘we all want a good communication, right? The most important thing is to understand each other, not to change anyone’s mind. . Everyone wants to be understood and to understand. So try to listen a little longer. The goal is to understand, not to be right. Try to set things from their point of view. Take a little mote time to do that. ‘

Compassion. He is fully qualified for that.