Below is another guest blog post from Anon, an ex-RSSB initiate. RSSB stands for Radha Soami Satsang Beas, an India-based religious organization headed up by a guru that I belonged to for 35 years, which explains my interest in sharing criticisms of the faith that I also found lacking. GSD stands for Gurinder Singh Dhillon, the current RSSB guru.
I like Anon’s “tell your boss” test.
Every religion is strange, because they almost always have a faith founded on the supernatural, for which there is no demonstrable evidence. So religions can make up all kinds of stuff up, claiming it to be true without any fear of being proven wrong — because religiosity doesn’t care about proof, just belief. But some religions are easy to describe to non-believers, while others, like RSSB, are difficult to describe, being really weird (to use a non-theological term).
I wrote a post about my strange RSSB initiation story that included a mention of how a crazed Greek yoga teacher I was involved with while in college claimed that he talked with Jesus in his basement. At the time I thought that was really weird. However, soon after I became a member of RSSB, which claims that the RSSB guru is best friends with God, and it is possible to communicate with the godly guru through the “radiant form” the guru inserts into the consciousness of disciples.
That’s even weirder than talking with Jesus. Which is why I didn’t speak with co-workers or my boss about RSSB. I’d just say things like, “I’m a vegetarian because I don’t believe in killing animals for food.”
Here’s what Anon has to say about the “tell your boss” test.
Imagine you’re in your end of year review. You’re sitting there in front of your boss. Your professional career is in his or her hands. They find out you’re RSSB and want to know more. What do you say?
One thing I noticed in my time at RSSB is that there was a huge sense of displaced values. I found it really alarming and it was almost as if people couldn’t hear themselves aloud.
Some of the spiritual belief was odd enough.
I believe GSD this specific man is God in human form walking on earth and I call him my Master – is hard to say aloud to your boss.
He’s been found guilty of multimillion dollar fraud by the Indian courts and his wife who owned the shell companies containing the funds died suddenly and he’s friends with imprisoned drug lords and proclaims them innocent – is hard to say aloud to your boss.
We transmigrate through human form for a maximum of four lives but we must repeat these five words and be vegetarian teetotal abstinent or we don’t escape and go to heaven – is hard to say to your boss.
We have to sit in a dark room for 2.5 hours daily and chant the five holy names or we don’t get saved – is hard to say to your boss.
There are five levels of heaven which correspond to the five holy names and three further heavens, we have to chant the five holy names so the rulers of those regions give us access, and our Guru Master will lead us there – is hard to say to your boss.
We have to listen to the Guru’s sermons and do unpaid volunteer work specifically for the Guru otherwise we aren’t eligible to get the names that we chant – is hard to say to your boss.
At RSSB – you’re told NOT to tell anyone what we believe and to keep it private and secret, and you are told NOT to share your experiences with anyone – especially your spiritual experiences in meditation.
You don’t have to. But I always found myself saying:
HOW do I explain this to my boss?
HOW do I explain this to my colleagues?
HOW do I explain this to my friends?
HOW do I explain this to nonRSSB family?
HOW do I explain this to a potential partner?
HOW would I explain this to my kids?
HOW would I explain this to the teachers when my kids go to school?
This may have been relatively easy a hundred years ago on the banks of the river beas in a rural north indian folk village where literacy was uncommon.In a global world economy where everyone has a basic standard of high education and access to technology which informs us all – it is HARD to avoid the glaring problems.
For some people – their entire life may be RSSB. Their boss, colleagues, friends, family, partner, kids – they may ALL be RSSB. That’s part of the pervasive issue. RSSB over time encourages you to spend all your time here and form your links here.
Friends, life partner, kids, family, maybe even work. Most people may build their entire personal life here but their professional life is outdoors. They keep it TOTALLY SECRET around their work, their college, their college friends, their kids say nothing at school. It’s like a secret circle.
They say “people won’t understand”. Yes because IT SOUNDS CRAZY AF.
They say “not all souls are marked” “not all are ready” “not all need to know”. Yeah, not everybody is Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh – but we KNOW about it and can google what they believe. They are generally able to put their belief on a box on a form. Why don’t you declare it on yours?
The good litmus test is this: HOW DO I TELL MY BOSS?
If you find yourself with a circle where you can’t openly ‘CLAIM RSSB’ – ask yourself why. Is it genuine piety to keep it to yourself. Or are you afraid of the totally normal repercussions and consequences of stating RSSB out loud outside the gates?
Most faiths have something they wear. They have a symnbol. RSSB doesn’t have one because it isn’t a religion. But most spiritual faiths or religions or paths wear it on their body.
Ask yourself – if you had a necklace that said RSSB – would you wear it everywhere you went all the time on display for EVERYONE to see?
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With an attitude like that I’m surprised you have a job.
Your ideology isn’t of actual interest to your boss or most people. If they ask, it’s usually to turn around and pontificate on their own more wonderful ways.
Look your boss square in the eye and say, “There are five world religions: Lust, Anger, Greed, Attachment and Ego.” Then drop the mic and trudge offstage shaking your head like you can’t even with these karmies.
It’s called having a guru and the guru inside that he represents is the most intimate of personal experiences so you really don’t need or want him to be a public figure. Just lie like he does. Say you’re a Catholic with a college minor in sufi philosophy. Or be like me and be offended at the whole question. I’m no teacher either. But Babaji is more important than the leaders of India or Iran put together.
Anon, such a complainer. I worked for fifteen years in a very prestigious consulting firm in Low Angeles. Two partners founded the firm and both were extremely wealthy. At the time I joined in 1988 one lived in Kirk Douglas’ old home on Rodeo drive and the other lived in Palos Verses overlooking the ocean. Richard asked me first, and as I began describing the path and my Guru, Maharaji, he said, “Oh, Ahimsa, I get it.” That was all it took. Doug was from a very wealthy ranching family in Montana. He didn’t get it but he accepted it same had some fun along the way. I became one of five senior vice presidents over a ten year period. He would have the principals out to his country club for breakfast when we flew in monthly. And he would put in a huge feast. A huge table was covered, every square inch with eggs, bacon, sausage, slabs of ham, sliced turkey, potatoes cooked in bacon fat, dove breasts, seafood, etc etc. All glistening with grease. As I sat back down with my colleagues, they with plates overflowing with food, a uniformed waiter came over with a bowl of plain oatmeal. Doug said, “Sorry Spence, I didn’t know what to get you.” Everyone smiled and suppressed a laugh. I replied, “The Feast of Five Forms of Flesh is very impressive Doug.. Looks like the whole wheel of creation represented there, in death.” My colleagues laughed, and all was good.
One year, we had grown by a third in a single year, Doug and his new wife put on a big bash at his compound. He had moved to Dallas and was now living in Ross Perot’s compound (Ross was the founder of ADT and had run for US President.. Long before your time).
Doug made a point to introduce me to one of his friends, a guy who immediately asked about my diet. I thought that was curious as it’s usually not a very interesting subject. After telling him, he went on and on about how human beings were meant to eat flesh, and he had gotten very sick in a vegetarian diet but all became well when he went back to pure flesh, no grains even! I assured him that different strokes for different folks was my philosophy. Doug and his wife came over with a group of other folks to see how our conversation was going. Turns out this guy had written a book called the “Paleo” diet (it has just come out but became quite successful over the years} and Doug had flown him out just as a gag to try to change my diet. “Wait, Doug flew you out here to talk to me??” Everyone laughed at it was just fun.
Anon, don’t mind being different and no one else will. Love yourself for who you ar. This will help you accept all, love all, and doors will open. Differences can be fun.
Oops, not ADT but EDS.
These postings from Anon speak of how ex-members (of any spiritual organisation), express their awakening from their original certain beliefs. Such realisations are wholesome, though they are only really just a possible journey back to ourselves.
Small awakenings or realisations emerge from direct contact with the real world – the world that the human organism lives in and has its being, but is invariably ignored or unnoticed in favour of the ever-impinging mental world of concepts in the form of thoughts, opinions, views, beliefs and ideas.
Perhaps at some point, it may be realised that all such concepts proceed from either memories from the past or concepts projected into the imagined future, leaving just the striking reality of this ever-present moment, which is all we can ever really know.
All our mental ponderings, all our conceptual musings (as useful and entertaining as they may be) are just as straw in the wind, changeable and impermanent, subject to desires, whims and fancies that can be (temporarily) pleasurable or painful. Yet, always remaining is just this, just this one moment – which is all we have, and probably, all we are.
Anon obviously was never attracted to this belief, he was born in it and now he just needs to explore on his own. I guess it’s a guy, it might be a woman I don’t know,, it’s Anon. Gurinder is such a lightweight passive aggressive, insecure shorty that he has to lean on his tough guy wannabe gangsters.This is why people leave India and people here think India is some type of holy place or something. Like the holy land is supposedly. There’s nothing holy about those places any more than anywhere else.
The connection that draws most of us to this Blog, is our past connection to either Charan Singh, or Gurinder Singh Dhillan. Or, RSSB.
If ANY HONEST reader reads Anon’s Posts, that clearly shares his honest questions and comments, after confessing he was a member of RSSB for 35 years, as Brian , Martin, and I were, before gagging and chocking on the Kool Aid, before vomiting, must still be an Addict. Those who were never initiated by any RSSB Guru are only spectators , who’s unearned opinions are next to meaningless to RSSB Initiates.
But this blog still attracts readers of past history of both Charan and Gurinder. Once Gurinder fades from RSSB, new initiates of J.S. Gill will need to step up to silence and censure the old disgruntled Initiates of this blog, in order to keep it active.
That is, unless old past members of RSSB will surface and spill the Beans , and expose the dirty laundry of RSSB that has been buried and hidden , because of threats of being transmigrated to lower species , or Beasts.
Kind of similar to the Epstein Files, haunting Trump .
It’s refreshing to read someone’s experience that is parallel to mine. I felt a bit crazy having these thoughts while surrounded by my satsangi family and social circle
This is Anon.
I saw this comment and felt a genuine response was needed. You are definitely not alone, you are not crazy and you are not going insane. It is all ok – I am so sorry if you ever felt this way. I hope you never feel out of place again – this is far behind you now. You deserve nothing but true acceptance and freedom.
Anon.
You can tell the ones that have had inner experiences on a spiritual level with the prerequisite open real world heart and the ones that were just having inner mental projections and outer know it all itis… know-it-all itis. With the need to know more than me. And on a spiritual level that would be almost an impossibility because everyone is equal in God’s eyes. Proof that I am not God. Because I think many of you just suck.
Lies and calumny:
“[Gurinder Singh] has been found guilty of multimillion dollar fraud by the Indian courts and his wife who owned the shell companies containing the funds died suddenly and he’s friends with imprisoned drug lords and proclaims them innocent – is hard to say aloud to your boss.”
1) No court has found Gurinder Singh guilty of fraud.
2) The insinuation that Gurinder Singh murdered his wife is completely baseless, as well as disgustingly poor form.
3) The person Gurinder visited in prison isn’t his “friend,” but a family member who has never been convicted of drug offenses.
Speaking of visiting people in prison, that’s something that weird Jesus told us to do.
And that leads to my perennial unanswered question: If Gurinder and Jesus and RSSB and the guy who told you about RSSB are so weird, why did you join RSSB anyway?
If you feel embarrassed about your RSSB beliefs, maybe you never really believed them. But whose fault is that?
It’s best to take responsibility and stop playing the victim. Jesus didn’t say that, I did.
As for this “Would you tell your boss test,” would you tell your boss you think everyone who isn’t in your political party is a member of a cult? Or that you think not castrating confused children is “cruel”?
I’m sorry I just misspoke because I am God. God in human form as you all are. Just not the be all and end all God.
Sant64 writes,…….” Speaking of visiting people in prison, that’s something that weird Jesus told us to do.”
Did you ever visit any prisoners, Sant? Well. I did. When I was living in California and was a Pastor, I , along with a couple of other Chaplins, visited the Los Angeles County Jail once a month, and sang, gave our Testimonies and preached. I carried my Ovation Acoustic guitar in its hard case in with me every time, that had a huge sign stuck to the side that said,…..JESUS SAVES! We also brought in free Bibles and books we could carry, for the prisoners and handed them out as they entered the Capel. The Capel held about 300 prisoners, and it was packed full every time I went there. I didn’t have any relatives there,…….that I know of.
I ministered in places that Gurinder would never be caught dead in, let alone with out being protected by armed Security guards!
REAL Saints do not require any followers to hype what they have done, because they KNOW , not only what they have done, but can still do, which does not require keeping secrets.
“He that wins souls is wise,” Proverbs 11:30
“He sent the Word and HEALED them.” Psalms 107:20
“Surely, The Lord, God will do nothing , but He revealeth His secrets unto His servants, the Prophets.” AMOS 3:7
“I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, it is power of God, unto Salvation, ….TO EVERY ONE THAT BELIEVES! “ Romans 1:16
“ For the Grace of God that bringeth Salvation hath appeared to ALL men.” Titus 2:1
So, My Confession has never changed since my Christian Born again experience of April 1977. I am saved because of the Gospel of Christ, not by the rhetoric of RSSB , or of any RADHASOAMI gurus.
So, ALL readers here, should examine their own Consciousness, and ask your selves, “Am I saved, and if so, by who? Gurinder, Charan, Gill, or Christ?
If unsure, I am still an Ordained Christian Minister, with authority to invite you to Christ! Come one, come ALL! There is still room at the Cross for YOU!
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Everyone here has an axe to grind. Mine is love. That’s my Axe.
I saw Gurinder a couple of years ago in Petaluma. At the close of the gathering he walked among us. I saw him putting everything he had, all his focus and energy into lifting souls. I saw him pouring himself, like a firehouse of bursting radiant light,into lifting up each individual soul. What others saw as just walking around I saw as intense, Herculean work. He poured all he had into that Sangat, he left it all on the field. He gave them his entire self. I was exhausted watching him. And I burst out into tears and could not stop crying for the rest of the day. And oddly, so did the old guy next to me. Apparently I wasn’t the only one who saw this.
And I was ashamed for ever having questioned him.
What did I know, what did I know of love’s austere offices?
Believe what you will, of course.
My axe to grind is love, based upon truth.
Oops..firehose, not firehouse.
I’m afraid what Gurinder had to offer was too little too late. He loves playing on people’s emotions. That’s nowhere. Man
Hi Ron
People want different things. It can take some time to acknowledge our own desires, hopes and disappointments. And imho this colours how we judge the character of others, always through our own conditioning and personal situation.
“We don’t see the world as it is.
We see the world as we are.”
Anaïs Nin
Our own shortcomings, desires and disappointments color our judgement. I don’t think there is any escape from that.
It strikes me as a little odd that people would try to judge any teacher when they have already determined the teaching isn’t for them. After that what is there to judge? We judge the character of others from quite a distance when we don’t truthfully judge ourselves. The greater the distance the more our mind fills in the gaps. It’s just how the brain functions.
Some people are very well suited to this world. They are in their element here. Any talk of anything else is absurd to them.
Others know this has never been right for them. They seem something else and even the thought of a better land, a better father n is very, very real for them. In fact it becomes the central support that get effectively keeps them alive and functioning here.
With such a stark contrast, what can we do but find what is right for us and us alone? A personal journey that begins and ends with appreciation for the incredible variety here, for the noble sentiments, and especially the noble failures?
“Life is a foreign language
Everyone mispronounces it.”
Robert Morley
I asked Chat”Please compare the requirements needed to be chosen as the Guru of the Radha Swami Satsang Beas and similar Sects, as compared to what is required of the average Non Denominational Christian Sect to be Ordained as a Pastor or Evangelist of a Christian Ministry, or Church Pastor? “
Chat’s answered: “Below is a structured comparison between the requirements for becoming the Guru (Sant Satguru) of Radha Soami Satsang Beas and the requirements typically needed to become a pastor or evangelist in a non-denominational Christian church.
The two systems are very different in structure, theology, and governance, which leads to very different requirements.
1. Selection of the Guru in Radha Soami Satsang Beas
Nature of the role
In the Sant Mat tradition followed by RSSB, the Guru (Sant Satguru) is considered the living spiritual master who can connect disciples to the divine sound current (Shabd) and guide them toward liberation.
This role is not administrative or educationally credentialed in the modern sense—it is considered a spiritual succession.
Main method of selection
The Guru is typically chosen by the current living Guru, who nominates his successor.
Leadership is transmitted through a lineage of masters.
The sitting Guru appoints the next Sant Satguru, rather than an election or academic process.
Example: In 2024, Gurinder Singh Dhillon nominated Jasdeep Singh Gill as his successor and patron of the organization.
Typical informal expectations (not formal rules)
While RSSB does not publish formal eligibility requirements, historically the Guru is usually expected to:
Be personally chosen by the current Guru.
Have deep spiritual experience in Sant Mat meditation.
Be trusted by the Guru and senior disciples.
Be capable of guiding disciples spiritually and giving initiation (Naam).
Usually already be a long-time disciple and sevadar (volunteer) within the organization.
Things that are not required
There is no formal requirement for:
Theological degree
Seminary education
Election by members
Formal ordination process
The legitimacy comes from lineage and spiritual authority, not institutional credentialing.
2. Requirements to Become a Pastor in a Non-Denominational Christian Church
Nature of the role
A pastor is primarily:
A teacher/preacher of the Bible
Leader of a congregation
Administrator of church ministries
Counselor and community leader
Unlike RSSB, authority is organizational rather than mystical lineage.
Core features of non-denominational churches
They are independent churches without a central governing denomination.
Requirements for pastors vary widely from church to church.
Typical requirements (common but not universal)
Most churches expect some combination of:
Personal calling to ministry
Strong biblical knowledge
Good moral reputation
Ability to preach and lead a congregation
Recommendation from church elders or mentors
Education (common but not always required)
Many churches prefer pastors to have:
Bachelor’s degree in theology or biblical studies
Master of Divinity (M.Div.) from a seminary (often considered the standard professional degree).
But in many independent churches:
Formal education is optional.
Some pastors receive training directly from their church or mentors.
Ordination
Ordination is usually done by:
A local church board
A network of churches
Or an independent ministry organization
Some online ministries even allow ordination within minutes online, showing how decentralized the system can be.
3. Side-by-Side Comparison
Feature Radha Soami Satsang Beas Guru Non-Denominational Christian Pastor
Authority source Spiritual lineage Church community or ministry organization
Selection method Appointed by current Guru Hired or ordained by church leadership
Education requirement None formally required Often Bible college or seminary (not always required)
Certification None Ordination or ministry credential
Number of leaders Usually one living Guru Thousands of pastors
Role Mystical spiritual master Teacher, preacher, and church administrator
Legitimacy basis Spiritual succession Congregational recognition
4. Key Structural Difference
The difference is largely institutional vs. charismatic authority.
RSSB
Authority = spiritual lineage
Guru seen as essential mediator for liberation
Non-Denominational Christianity
Authority = Bible + congregation
Pastor is a teacher or shepherd, not a mystical intermediary
✅ In short:
Becoming the Guru of RSSB is rare, lineage-based, and dependent on being chosen by the current Guru.
Becoming a pastor in a non-denominational Christian church is far more accessible and organizationally based, often requiring only the support of a congregation and demonstrated ability to lead.
If you want, I can also explain something that is very interesting sociologically:
Why Eastern guru lineages (like RSSB) and Protestant leadership models developed such radically different leadership systems. It actually traces back to very different theological assumptions about authority.”
David Lane one posted that I got my Ministry Credentials off the sides 0f a Corn Flake box. But those who know me, know the difference.
The difference being that most Muslims or Jews wouldn’t ever want to even talk to you. And the rssb guru has people from all faiths begging for attention. Haha. I believe David Lane. Maybe he’ll be the next east/west guru because I guarantee you Gurinder is going to leave more than one. Hopefully one will be a woman. And it ain’t over until the fat lady Singh. May 5th. And I don’t know anybody that I haven’t met in person. I don’t consider online worthy of calling it meeting.
@Ronald writes,……” And I don’t know anybody that I haven’t met in person. I don’t consider online worthy of calling it meeting.”
And yet, for any one who have even remotely has been reading his past rants, and haven’t challenged his claims of now being the Reincarnation of the late Sawan Singh, who has came back here to balance karmas he created, when he was Sawan Singh, the only proof he offered, was that Sawan fell off his horse and broke his leg. So Ronald stated that he also broke his leg in a motorcycle accident, and is why he now limps as Sawan did, proving he was, is, Ronald/Sawan! Has any one here been awake enough to have noticed this comment? If so, then you must have also noticed , but was afraid to ask for further clarification, of his other comments, that Charan Singh was his Grand Son, who he initiated, and Charan was the Reincarnation of Swamiji, or Shiv Dayal, so in essence, if that is true, than I was initiated by Charan/Swamiji, in this life as Jim, so, I also, must have reincarnated along with Ronald/Sawan to balence Karmas that I created , tied to Charan/Swamiji. Well, I’ll reveal that mystery, later,……ASSUMING Ronald/Sawan’s past rants have any reality.
But Charan definitly stated, many times, in person, that NOBODY was here, unless they had karma to settle, and no one would remain here a second, once their karmas were paid.
So, Ronald/Sawan further posted here, that Gurinder Singh Dhillan is the Reincarnation of the Soldier Saint, Jamail Singh, who initiated Sawan Singh, ( who is now Ronald!), so the balence of karma returns full swing, because Gurinder Singh/Jamail, has initiated Ronald/Sawan Singh in THIS life, to balance karmas , and to correct mistakes! So, are any readers awake enough yet, to follow the logic of Ronald’s rants? If so, what has any of his rants got to do with me, and our connected Karmas?
Well, consider that, I, as Jim, am the Reincarnation of Dr. Julian Johnson! If so, I had to reincarnate to correct my mistake of ever following Sawan Singh, or getting initiated in to the Cult of Radhasoami Swami Satsang Beas, and leaving my First Love of Christ, as Dr. Johnson was a Baptist Missionary, abducted to the Cult by Sawan Singh, and I, Jim, have gone full cycle, as the Reincarnation of Dr. Julian Johnson, to nullify his, now my, mistake of getting abducted to the Cult of Radha Swami Satsang Beas!
Johnson and I have almost identical back grounds, but I have corrected most of Johnson’s past mistakes, such as his 4 marriages as compared to my ONE and only! Johnson died the end of 1939, and I was born the beginning of 1942. Johnson died by being pushed down in a scuffle at the Dera, hitting the back of his head on a rock, and dying. The back of my head has hurt, both sides, for as long as I remember, and still does! Johnson was born in Kentucky, and I live in Virginia, both in the Southern U.S. Our facial features are very similar, comparable at around 70 years old. We both were Pilots of small Airplanes. We both lived in Southern California, for years, and were both involved with Theosophy and Rosicrucians , in addition to our Christian Ministries before being initiated by RSSB Cult Masters!
Well,……if all of this is true, and Ronald/Sawan has returned here to correct his mistakes, than he followed me here to release me from the Cult of RSSB , and we have both come full circle to settle our karmas, as I have reclaimed my Authority of Christ , by renouncing my abduction of the RSSB Cult .
When I first read The Path of The Masters, it was so familiar, that I almost remembered writing it!
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Very interesting Jim! I have a friend who has friends in India who claim that the death of Dr Johnson was a result of a karmic interaction in a past life with a business partner. Her version of their version. Hard to verify what went on in the past life let alone what actually happened in 1939.
For anyone who would like to see eyewitness accounts of the actual events, court testimony, newspaper articles, and diplomatic exchanges and get some fascinating insights into life at the Dera back then I’d suggest reading ‘The Mystery of Dr. Johnson’s Death: The True Story of How a Famous Mountain Climber Killed His Friend and Mentor at a Spiritual Ashram in North India” by David Lane.
The famous mountain climber was Paul Petzoldt, who wrote about it a few times in the years after he returned to America.
Also, Paul’s first wife, who was there at the Dera when the incident occurred, describes her version of the events in “On Top of the World: My Adventures with My Mountain-Climbing Husband” by Patricia Petzoldt.
Another fascinating biography, On Belay!: The Life of Legendary Mountaineer Paul Petzoldt ” by Raye C. Ringholz gives yet another viewpoint in the segment that details his time in India.
I had heard different accounts of how Dr Johnson died from various people over the years but know now that they didn’t have much backing them up. These books are probably as close as you will get to seeing what actually happened.
@Kevin, Thanks. I HAVE read all of David Lane’s excellent books and research on Julian Johnson. But before I had read ANY of those books on Johnson, I already had been having very strong familiarity of haven not only written The Path of The Masters book, but also his other book, “With a Great Master in India .” But I , as Jim, had not yet been to the Dera, so wasn’t able to test if I had any Dejavu there. But I finally DID get there, in Oct. 2017, and after hearing Gurinder Singh embarrass a male questioner by asking him on a Q & A session, with about 250 females and males, both married and unmarried in the audience, if “he was still thinking of his Wife’s butt, and if he knew what a 69 was”,…..then listening to the laughter of way too many in the mixed audience,….I knew I was way out of my League, and must have wandered in to a PORNO lecture, instead of the Spiritual Lecture I thought I attended! I mean, it has been written that the reason Jamail /Gurinder had been excommunicated from Agra Soamibagh. , that he had kept several young women at the Dera “attending him”,…so it appears Gurinder still retains Jaimal’s personalities! I gave my full report here after returning home the end of Oct. 2017. The comments were, and are , still interesting to read! But, That was when my shackles of RSSB were completely unlocked , that had held me mesmerized since my initiation in FEB. 1990 BY Charan, just before he died. But I still hung on, rethinking as much as I could remember, until Roland showed up here, and the back of my head started aching worse than I could even control with Tylenol! His rants flipped a light switch off in my mind, which has led to my recent posts here!
IMHO
LIST OF TOP THREE SANT MAT GURUS OF ALL TIME(GOAT)
.KABIR
.SWAMI JI
.SAWAN SINGH
AND YOU
Well if you want to feel like it, welcome buddy
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These are all sort of psychotic ideaś as I see it.
I have had that too but know now that this is psychotic this kind of seeing´..
Sorry to say but please(for youself) Stop with these kind of seeing/ ´ideals´