Below is another guest blog post from Anon, an ex-RSSB initiate. RSSB stands for Radha Soami Satsang Beas, an India-based religious organization headed up by a guru that I belonged to for 35 years, which explains my interest in sharing criticisms of the faith that I also found lacking. This is a follow-up to Anon’s previous guest blog post, “Life after RSSB.” If you’re interested in the linguistic history of “hoovering,” check out this link.
Anon uses a few terms that won’t be familiar to everybody. Satsang is a spiritual meeting. Seva is volunteering. Sevadar is a volunteer. Satsangis are RSSB initiates.
“Hoover tactics” are methods of trying to pull you back into something you’ve tried to leave (like a vacuum hoover which just “hoovers” you in). If you’ve tried to distance yourself from RSSB, you may have experienced this. Some of these tactics are outright and some are more benign – these are the more insidious ones in my view as they come across as “friendly”.
I used to write these off as “innocent” or “well meaning” attempts by satsangis who were concerned for my everlasting soul, or genuinely missed me. I now realise this was just “pressure-lite” and they were still just trying to pressure me – they didn’t really care about me and their acceptance of me was conditional acceptance – as long as I did everything RSSB wanted. No means no.
I wanted to share my experience of hoover tactics which came my way, to help anyone else who may be experiencing these. I’m also sharing some which I’ve seem happen to others.
Eventually I went no contact with all RSSB people – except for one who wanted to maintain contact – and we don’t talk about RSSB. I still struggle with feelings of pressure in my life – I have to work on that. I happened to cross paths with an older asian man with a beard and a white turban yesterday – I was just filled with a sense of dread and panic. I have to work on this too.
Commenters – feel free to describe any additional ones in the comments.
- Gentle/benign tactics – questioning/querying your absence – disguised as fake concern
- “We haven’t seen you for a while, where have you been?”
- “We’ve missed you / been worried about you? What’s been going on?”
- “What have you been up to? What have you been doing?”
- “I’ve been asking about you – I heard you did XYZ”
- “I’ve been asking X about you but they know nothing – nobody seems to know what you’ve been up to”
- “It’s actually so good to see you here and see you around, been a while”
- “Oh my God heyy, where have you been?”
2. Outright direct questions – monitoring/policing lifestyle- disguised as spiritual talk
- “You’ve been on holiday? Who did you go with? Yourself, friends, girlfriend/boyfriend?”
- “You got a girlfriend/boyfriend? You seeing anyone?”
- “If you go to parties or work, how do you handle people offering you alcohol?”
- “Do you drink? Do you say no? Have you ever had alcohol?”
- “Why are you eating that? It isn’t RSSB – you can’t have that”
- “Why are you taking that medication from the doctor? RSSB says you can’t take mind altering drugs.”
- “Are you getting married? Are they RSSB?”
- “Are the kids RSSB?”
- “You haven’t come, you have fallen off the path?”
3. Monitoring/policing presence at RSSB – disguised as community spirit and faithfulness
- “Are you coming to satsang?”
- “Are you going to the headquarter site?”
- “Are you going to come to seva?”
- “Are you going to take up a regular seva?”
- “Are you going to go XYZ seva?”
- “Are you going to do a whole week of seva in your holidays?”
- “Are you going to the national satsang?”
- “Were you sitting at the front or the back?”
- “What time did you get here? Early or late?”
- “Are you going to the overseas satsang?”
- “Can’t you take time off and come?”
- “Why aren’t you coming? Why haven’t I seen you?”
4. Forcing you back – unwanted sign-ups without being asked – disguised as helpfulness
- “I put your name down for seva”
- “I got you a space at satsang”
- “I’ve signed you up for XYZ seva”
- “I’ll take you to the RSSB centre, come with me”
- “I’ve got you a ticket/token”
- “You should meet XYZ I told him/her about you and that you’ll help”
- “I bought you back some food from there”
- “There’s a new photo of the guru/ a new book – let me show you”
- “Can you take ME? I’ve got nobody to take me, I can’t go myself”
5. Controlling your life choices – disguised as “the right spiritual atmosphere”
- VIP status – access to key senior leaders, access to the front row, access to the guru
- Suggesting you become an authority figure – key sevadar, giving satsang
- Suggesting you “bring” (convert) your non-RSSB family
- Suggesting you find an RSSB partner
- Introducing you to an eligible RSSB person
- Pressure to marry that RSSB person (this was where I RAN – I’ll do another post on this)
- Pressure to do your paid work on an unpaid basis as “seva” for RSSB
- Pressure to make financial donations to RSSB
- Pressure to leave a legacy in your will to RSSB
- Pressure to give your home/real estate/land to RSSB
— Anon
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“Pressure to marry that RSSB person (this was where I RAN – I’ll do another post on this)”
Are flings on the astral plane against the vows? I’ve often wondered.
@Anon,…..are you Osho Robbins reincarnated?
https://youtu.be/4aPQPwFF4DI?si=M3d33PgVBxOsYq8V
Great post by Anon…the hoover tactics by the blind brainwashed sheep that really think that gurinder singh dhillon is god despite the evidence. I can only conclude this as the evidence shows gurinder is a narsasistic, sociopathetic evil character. Gurinder actually clearly says hes no god. Other evidence is his drug money laundering through rssb; being a wife murderer; ordering the murder of Nancy Grewel in canada who spoke up about gurinders crimes to humanity. Gurinder is a billionaire baba who has purchased a 126m property in chundhighar while children are starving and homeless. He is a land mafia, and a crook grabbing land off poor farmers in punjab under black mail and bullyimg tactics of hos hench men. He also declared the complete inncence of his drug lord brother in law when evidences shows he has 700 crore cash that he cant account for – Isnt this enough evidence? The only truth gurinder has about himself was being the biggest crook on the planet – he wasnt lying and teasing the sangat with the truth – what an evil dirty old crook, rotten to the core. This makes walter white in breaking bad look like an amerture. Dont forget gurinder is a peodofile sympthyser, and known as the Epstein baba of beas. Hes no god, but actually is the puppet of his lord and master Lucifer/ kaal (jot nirunjan) . Beware the vacuum cleaner sangat who are the puppets of gurinder.
I agree, I’m in awe how the followers don’t realize that the RSSB family is tangled in so many webs of deceit and corruption.
God forbid you miss even one of their gatherings. These RSSB snakes will be all over you with those questions. Good on Anon for posting the reality.
These are fairly innocent efforts to help. They only require that you set a clear boundary. And this is probably good practice for that. You can find an innocent and harmless way without blame to say, “it’s not my cup of tea now.” Satsangis will understand. You do your part and explain. You don’t need to justify, but you do need to be consistent and clear in setting the boundary.
Or it is possible these things affect you precisely because you sense the sincerity in them and may not be clear. And that sincerity makes it difficult to distance oneself.
It’s easy not to be clear in issues of spirituality. When discussing a loving relationship with the Master there is no downside, the only price is ones ego and identity.
If you aren’t ready yet to relinquish those then that is your boundary. It’s not complicated. Try not to blame anyone, just be you. If you must blame, that’s a weight you are putting on yourself. Forgive everyone.
It is very important to live your own life, and to love whom you choose to love.
God loves you in all events. If you are doing what you believe is right there is a grain of truth in it and you will get there in time.
Just like all those struggling noble Satsangis.
There is no escape from the struggle for truth. Most of us engage that within, others need some outward symbolic movement first. It’s all part of the same truth: reality.
Can you find truth without having to label anything or anyone else as false?
Anon, you are in a unique position to master that skill. Until then you are bound in a struggle with Sant Mat of your own making.
When you do master that skill you will no longer need to carry any negativity at all. You won’t see any difference between Satsangis and anyone else, Christians, Atheists, etc. Everyone is trying here. It’s a classroom.
The Teacher sets our individual lesson plan. Yours seems to be boundaries. Master it. Then move on to something else.
Hi Spencer,
I received Nam in 1972. I would appreciate it if I could communicate with you by email. If this is acceptable to you, I will provide an email address.
I have family members who never attend satsang at all. They have never been asked any of these questions or forced to attend any gatherings.
I think its more geared towards the Indian population. They are extremely nosy people, especially the followers. You miss even one they are onto you, miss two and you might as well be a heretic in their eyes.
Great post….the hoover tactics by the blind brainwashed sheep that really think that gurinder singh dhillon is god despite the evidence. I can only conclude this as the evidence shows gurinder is a narsasistic, sociopathetic evil character. Gurinder actually clearly says hes no god. Other evidence is his drug money laundering through rssb; being a wife murderer; ordering the murder of Nancy Grewel in canada who spoke up about gurinders crimes to humanity. Gurinder is a billionaire baba who has purchased a 126m property in chundhighar while children are starving and homeless. He is a land mafia, and a crook grabbing land off poor farmers in punjab under black mail and bullyimg tactics of hos hench men. He also declared the complete inncence of his drug lord brother in law when evidences shows he has 700 crore cash that he cant account for – Isnt this enough evidence? The only truth gurinder has about himself was being the biggest crook on the planet – he wasnt lying and teasing the sangat with the truth – what an evil dirty old crook, rotten to the core. This makes walter white in breaking bad look like an amerture. Dont forget gurinder is a peodofile sympthyser, and known as the Epstein baba of beas. Hes no god, but actually is the puppet of his lord and master Lucifer/ kaal (jot nirunjan) . Beware the vacuum cleaner sangat who are the puppets of gurinder.